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Post by JR on Apr 20, 2016 0:02:25 GMT -5
Like the $100 saddle JR. On a GY6 at best you could get the Super Tech 15W40 Rotella alternative in the $9.99 Gallon Jug for your 500 mile oil changes or just about dino any oil that meets the 4T Motorcycle Oil spec Super Tech 15W40 Dino Rotella Alternative (said to be universal and therefore meeting 4T)Super Tech-20W50-Dino Motor-Oil-1-Quart (said to meet 4T Spec). For my Piaggio powered bike I asked the manufacturers rep about those two oils along with real Rotella and the answer was no way. Use only 4T Synthetic in our newer series tight tolerance full flow filtered engines which means any 4 stoke they have made in about the last 25 years. Again use what is appropriate for what you have and try to understand why something would or would not be appropriate. Do not use synthetic in an unfiltered engine that you want any combustion by products etc to accumulate in the bottom of the sump to get drained out every 500 miles which is what you really want on a GY6. The 500 mile oil change is technically not because the oil is worn out but rather because those engines are not particularly clean running so that you need to get the dirt accumulating in the bottom of the sump drained out before it starts circulating back through the engine. Also rockynv someone just told me something that I totally agree with even though I made it sound like Genuine is just wanting to take people's money. Some people actually don't know how to change the oil in a scooter especially a scooter with a true oil filter and the first 500 mile oil change would be a good thing for the scooter warranty and a way for them to learn how. But I still find no evidence at all that the scooter comes with synthetic oil from the factory nor do I find in any Genuine manual where it says to use synthetic oil? If someone has info to the contrary I will stand corrected.  JR |
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Post by JR on Apr 19, 2016 20:47:48 GMT -5
Scooter motors spend a lot of time at high rpm. They are no lawn mower engines. You can buy a gallon of 5w40 synthetic shell rotella t6 for $22. Kymco recommend full synthetic. Genuine recommends full synthetic for their 2 strokes. Since both of these companies provide 2 year warranties I would bet synthetic oil provides better protection at start up and continuos high rpm use. No dollar store oil for me. My scooter only takes about .75 lt. Dino oil today has all kinds of additives but even modern cars are needing semi or full synthetic if you expect the manufacturer to foot the bill for the engine while its under warranty. After the first oil change its synthetic for me Be sure to not use that "cheap" stuff at WalMart. But also do note they tell you the "conventional" 2 stroke oil is a good choice too? www.scooterloungeonline.com/genuinestellaoilDang they do the same thing for the 4 strokes? Surely there is no sales pitch here? www.scooterloungeonline.com/genuinebuddyoilandoilfilterNow also let's make sure we compare apples to apples? Comparing a Genuine scooter which also uses a "real" oil filter to a GY-6 is apples to oranges and do you know of a scooter with a "Chinese" GY-6 that offers a 2 year warranty? Now let's also review the Genuine FAQ and see how they want you to exercise the taking care of the scooter as to "not" void that 2 year warranty? genuinescooters.com/genuine_faqs.htmlTake note of how they want you to "baby" the engine in the first 500 miles? They are explicit on how to break it in and really don't want you to service it yourself so be sure to bring it in to the dealer so he make more money for "giving" you the 2 year warranty. I love the part of "if you insist" I mean how difficult can it be? Righty tighty, lefty loosey heck she didn't even break a fingernail! I don't think I heard the word synthetic any where? Now here is one of the many Genuine manuals we have here and it's the service manual for the Buddy 125 and no where I can find it says use synthetic oil and remember you are supposed to get a manual if you "insist" on doing it yourself? www.jr-richscooterdoc.com/Genuine_buddy125_service_manual.pdfWhat? You mean it's possible they want you to break in the engine with dino oil? How many scooter engines recommend synthetic breaking in the engine? I'm sure there are some but I haven't found that on a Genuine yet? Actually I haven't found any at all? scooterfocus.com/scooter_break-in.htmlblog.scooterunderground.ca/headline/scooter-oil-201-helping-choose-proper-scooter-oil/First paragraph here? www.taotao.us/default/assets/File/SCOOTER%20SAFE%20START.pdf Synthetic oil for a GY-6? = $100 saddle on a $10 horse.  JR |
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Post by JR on Apr 19, 2016 14:30:46 GMT -5
How do I start a new thread?? Go to the section you want to post in and at the top right corner you will see Create Thread, click on it and then make your post, then at the bottom right corner click on create thread. JR |
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Post by JR on Apr 19, 2016 12:24:22 GMT -5
Hi Friend, You are absolutely right, using cheap gas and oil, on a 50cc scooter, for what it uses, its simply non sense. Unfortunately there are a lot of people that use crap oil and cheap gas, to save a buck, and than they complain that "the scooter is cheap Chinese crap", when the only cheap thing is themselves. When you find any cheap oil or gas let me know and sense 50cc scooters are a dime a dozen why would anyone use high priced oil on a cheap scooter? I've got over 30k on 5 scooters all using dino oil, got 180k on a 1993 Chevy Silverado that still runs like a scalded ape and it's never had anything but dino oil. 3500 on a 50cc scooter? Ok betting if you change it regular it would still have the same miles on it using dino oil, mine does? So you using synthetic and others using other oils makes them cheap and you're not? JR |
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Post by JR on Apr 18, 2016 20:47:37 GMT -5
Grits! With a big plate of ham to go with them!
JR
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Post by JR on Apr 18, 2016 17:08:04 GMT -5
OK vintagepgogod123 so what is working and what is not again and I'll need to know some wire colors of what isn't working and you may have to do some voltage checks for me? JR |
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Post by JR on Apr 18, 2016 13:28:21 GMT -5
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Post by JR on Apr 18, 2016 6:47:18 GMT -5
 kev What make model and engine size is your scooter? We need some info before we can help you fix it? JR
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Post by JR on Apr 16, 2016 21:16:39 GMT -5
vintagepgogod123 Tell me what your scooter is again? Exact make model and year? JR
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Post by JR on Apr 10, 2016 10:22:13 GMT -5
yelloscoot check the valve adjusters and the valve settings. If all is well then pull the CVT cover and remove the belt and start it and see if you still have the sound. We got to isolate the area it's coming from. JR
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Post by JR on Apr 5, 2016 22:15:14 GMT -5
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Post by JR on Apr 3, 2016 12:19:56 GMT -5
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Post by JR on Mar 30, 2016 21:58:03 GMT -5
Simon all the way!
JR
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by: JR - Mar 28, 2016 22:35:37 GMT -5
Post by JR on Mar 28, 2016 22:35:37 GMT -5
For awhile there has been a button on the Forum Stats category that when clicked would hide or show this category. I've now included this button on each and every category. If you don't wan to view a section very often just hide it until you need it. This can be helpful to those with smaller screens by cutting down the vertical length of the forum page. This is of course on the main page of the forum only.
JR
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Post by JR on Mar 28, 2016 21:26:30 GMT -5
justin313 What brand/size is this scooter? JR
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