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Post by murraybot on May 25, 2016 20:36:52 GMT -5
Ok, so my scooter stopped starting back in October. I've been busy, but slowly replacing parts trying to get the spark. A new CDI, spark coil, starter, solenoid, and 2 spark plugs later, I'm convinced it's probably the stator. I'm slightly daunted after spending about $100 on new parts, and the difficulty of getting the fly wheel off. I don't own a pry tool, and the necessary tools to make one are just more to the budget. Is there something obvious I'm missing or maybe a way to test it without taking the fly wheel off?
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Post by crawford on May 25, 2016 21:28:54 GMT -5
First how are you testing for spark? Are you sure spark plug wire grommet part is screw all the way into spark plug wire? If need most auto parts store have loner tools like pullers and such.
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Post by tortoise on May 25, 2016 22:34:49 GMT -5
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Post by murraybot on May 25, 2016 23:41:47 GMT -5
Thank you so much, I'll post when I get her started. I'm determined.
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Post by ricardoguitars on May 26, 2016 19:27:48 GMT -5
Probably just a loose/broken cable, very common issue, check your cables for continuity, it could be an easy $0 fix!
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Post by murraybot on May 26, 2016 20:39:43 GMT -5
I've tested the continuity for the wires going from the CDI to the spark coil.
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Post by lain on May 27, 2016 10:06:00 GMT -5
You say you haven't run it since last october... You have more than ignition issues now. Clean out the carb and the fuel lines and the tank and replace the gas, possibly add some Seafoam to the tank before putting gas into it to get it headed into the gas lines first to keep things clean. Once you have done that you should go back to figuring out the spark issue unless you can confirm for sure that the gas is okay and running though the system without obstacles like solidified gas jelly.
In my experience 2 months is enough to completely mess up an entire fuel system, you have gone much more than that. You may have actually already solved the spark issue but lacking enough gas due to clogged lines could be the issue now. These rides don't like it when you don't pay attention to them, they are like bad girlfriends, if you don't ride them once a week or so they get upset.
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Post by pistonguy on May 27, 2016 12:43:28 GMT -5
You say you haven't run it since last october... You have more than ignition issues now. Clean out the carb and the fuel lines and the tank and replace the gas, possibly add some Seafoam to the tank before putting gas into it to get it headed into the gas lines first to keep things clean. Once you have done that you should go back to figuring out the spark issue unless you can confirm for sure that the gas is okay and running though the system without obstacles like solidified gas jelly. In my experience 2 months is enough to completely mess up an entire fuel system, you have gone much more than that. You may have actually already solved the spark issue but lacking enough gas due to clogged lines could be the issue now. These rides don't like it when you don't pay attention to them, they are like bad girlfriends, if you don't ride them once a week or so they get upset. Brugh, I know you trying to help and such but before we send someone much less experienced into tearing into his carb before he verifies anything then I see So Many screw something up that was Not Broke to begin with and never gets it running. all because of Bad Advice. Jeez, leave the dmn plug in there and give it a Wiff of Ether, If it pops you just figured out ya got spark and no fuel without having to do all this or get your hand dirty. |
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Post by lain on May 27, 2016 14:00:07 GMT -5
You say you haven't run it since last october... You have more than ignition issues now. Clean out the carb and the fuel lines and the tank and replace the gas, possibly add some Seafoam to the tank before putting gas into it to get it headed into the gas lines first to keep things clean. Once you have done that you should go back to figuring out the spark issue unless you can confirm for sure that the gas is okay and running though the system without obstacles like solidified gas jelly. In my experience 2 months is enough to completely mess up an entire fuel system, you have gone much more than that. You may have actually already solved the spark issue but lacking enough gas due to clogged lines could be the issue now. These rides don't like it when you don't pay attention to them, they are like bad girlfriends, if you don't ride them once a week or so they get upset. Brugh, I know you trying to help and such but before we send someone much less experienced into tearing into his carb before he verifies anything then I see So Many screw something up that was Not Broke to begin with and never gets it running. all because of Bad Advice. Jeez, leave the dmn plug in there and give it a Wiff of Ether, If it pops you just figured out ya got spark and no fuel without having to do all this or get your hand dirty. Seems you overlooked how long it was sitting though, that long gas isn't going to be good lines will be clogged, jets most certainly would be gummed at the least unless all precautions were taken to ensure proper storage. Have you checked for spark with the plug against the engine? |
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Post by murraybot on Jun 9, 2016 16:29:12 GMT -5
Yeah, after I adjusted the pickup coil to where I was getting enough VAC, the plug is now sparking. I'll drain my fuel and at least open the carb, and inspect for gunk. Thanks a heap you guys.
ALSO: I use starTron fuel stabilizer and it has enzymes that break stuff down, so hopefully I haven't jellied.
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Post by lain on Jun 9, 2016 16:57:43 GMT -5
Yeah, after I adjusted the pickup coil to where I was getting enough VAC, the plug is now sparking. I'll drain my fuel and at least open the carb, and inspect for gunk. Thanks a heap you guys. ALSO: I use starTron fuel stabilizer and it has enzymes that break stuff down, so hopefully I haven't jellied. If you can get it to idle and to run fine you may be able to get by if it has jelled up slightly by just adding some "SeaFoam" to the tank. A shot glass each fill up for a couple weeks and your carb should look spotless. |
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Post by murraybot on Jun 9, 2016 17:39:52 GMT -5
Looks like my fuel pump is clogged up, I took it off and put it in a ISO bath. Worst case, I'll order a new one. Awful gravity pumps.
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Post by lain on Jun 10, 2016 0:14:45 GMT -5
Looks like my fuel pump is clogged up, I took it off and put it in a ISO bath. Worst case, I'll order a new one. Awful gravity pumps. Iso and rubber don't mix, iso dries rubber out. Best to use a petroleum based product (like seafoam), or just flush it with gas. I personally just use grease cutting dish soap and warm water to clean rubber parts and finish off with gas or seafoam so I can use it right away. |
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Post by pistonguy on Jun 10, 2016 5:56:37 GMT -5
Yeah, after I adjusted the pickup coil to where I was getting enough VAC, the plug is now sparking. I'll drain my fuel and at least open the carb, and inspect for gunk. Thanks a heap you guys. ALSO: I use starTron fuel stabilizer and it has enzymes that break stuff down, so hopefully I haven't jellied. I am very familiar with Stratton in the Power Equipment industry. Stratton works very well. you should be More than fine. Power equipment sits around not being used more than anything. |
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Post by murraybot on Jun 10, 2016 9:17:26 GMT -5
OK, so everything seemed to be working so I let it idle for a bit and it got hot and died. The plug was real black and now it won't even try to start. Like seriously, this problem I've had since I got it. It doesn't even try to start, no solenoid click or anything. It also seems random when it does finally try and turn over. Still not sure why it won't at least try to start more than 5\60 tries, but it keeps dying.
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