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Post by mikestib1 on Dec 11, 2015 16:14:45 GMT -5
I've owned a 49 and 150 scooter built by them and so far so good. Is any one familiar with CSC motorcycles which is importing a small street legal dual sport and now a liquid cooled adventure bike also 250cc. If it is the ride is for scooters only please just disregard my post. I ride my scooters more than my motorcycle but basically all 2 wheel motorized vehicles are my addiction, a good one to have
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Post by cookees on Dec 11, 2015 20:58:57 GMT -5
Those bikes are being made by Zongshen....not Znen. Zongshen is a HUGE OEM in China and has a very good reputation. I sold their scooters early in my career and they were well built and well supported.
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Post by rockynv on Dec 12, 2015 0:36:35 GMT -5
A bit limited with only 330 lbs load capacity. 460 lbs capacity is the norm for the Italian/European bikes of this class making taking a passenger or a few parcels more realistic. CSC has a pretty good reputation however those are listing for $4,000 to $7,000 which is a bit much for a 330 lb capacity bike and puts them in the price range of even a Honda CBX.
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Post by wheelbender6 on Dec 12, 2015 8:33:15 GMT -5
The CSC RX3 bike is on the heavy side, but comes with bags, wind protection and a 25 hp engine, costing around four grand. They are currently available. The CSC TT is more of a bare bones dual sport and can be pre-ordered for around 2 grand. The TT dual sport will not be delivered until spring.
The RX3 has a lower seat height, making it a good ride for ladies too.
The chinariders.net forum is probably the best place to get the latest info on owning and maintaining a CSC Zongshen motorcycle.
A lot of guys on this forum own scoots and motorcycles, or owned motorcycles in the past.
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Post by kevinharrell on Dec 12, 2015 10:08:27 GMT -5
Here is the link for CSC link |
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Post by rockynv on Dec 12, 2015 10:51:40 GMT -5
The CSC RX3 bike is on the heavy side, but comes with bags, wind protection and a 25 hp engine, costing around four grand. They are currently available. The CSC TT is more of a bare bones dual sport and can be pre-ordered for around 2 grand. The TT dual sport will not be delivered until spring. The RX3 has a lower seat height, making it a good ride for ladies too. The chinariders.net forum is probably the best place to get the latest info on owning and maintaining a CSC Zongshen motorcycle. A lot of guys on this forum own scoots and motorcycles, or owned motorcycles in the past. Yes heavy for the limited capacity and starting at $4,000 ranging up to $7,000. Two year warranty is appealing but for about what they are charging you can get a 300 to 500cc Adventure bike from a major manufacturer represented and serviced by a local dealership. CSC to me has generally been more advertising glitz then value. Yes they are decent bikes at California prices. How many other Chinese resellers do you actually see out there asking full MSRP though? Typically the bikes are sold at 1/2 to 2/3 the MSRP. |
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Post by wheelbender6 on Dec 12, 2015 11:33:57 GMT -5
I don't think the base RX3 is overpriced at the 4 grand price point. A new Honda Rebel or CB300F will cost considerably more. Now add a wind screen and matching hard bags. Now add skid plate and engine guards. You are way over 5 grand for a comparable equipped Honda. The base RX3 is not a bargain for everybody, but I think it provides a lot for the money for a lot of people.  |
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Post by cyborg on Dec 12, 2015 15:39:46 GMT -5
I gave the rx3 the real long look,,,,if it was available as a 450-500cc i'd have one already,,,sent a few emails to them and got back "bigger displacements are in developement but as yet no release dates are anticipated",,,i have a mildly warmed up dr350 so it would have to be one he11 of a bike to top it,,,all i have to do is toss on a set of bags and the doctor would run rings around the rx,,,I read an article about the factory doing a 10,000 mile round trip on china with 8 of them,,,except for a couple tossed chains and a few flats they made it very well,,,one bike did have a bad rear wheel bearing at the end of it but that was it,,,and from the pics they posted of the ride they wern't easy on them either ,,crossing rivers ,,rocks ,, pavement you name it they threw it at them ,,but 250cc is just too small for me,,i'd even consider one if it was out a little longer and a decent jug kit was out and i'd install it and ride,,,the klx250cc is a great bike too but again too small,,,the Bill 351cc kit really wakes it up big time and some are saying it's actually a better engine and runs smoother ,,,but i have a 350 already
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Post by rockynv on Dec 13, 2015 7:48:08 GMT -5
Still only a bike with a 330 lb capacity like a small scooter for $4,000 so mostly a bike for a youth but not a full grown adult so they do not compare with the competition. The RX3 price ranges from $4,000 to $7,000 which does put them in the same price range as the moderately larger bikes from the major brands however the RX3 has nowhere near to the same capacity. Apples and Oranges.
If you weigh only around 150 lbs it might be OK however if you weigh over 200 lbs and take a passenger you will be overloaded without having capacity for any gear. On a 330 lb capacity bike you can overload it more easily than you would think. Calculate in the riders weight, weight of the safety gear (armored adventure riding jacket, armored adventure riding pants, boots, gloves, helmet and such) along with drinking water, first aid supplies, tire patch kit, etc and a 200 lb rider can load up the bike past its max capacity very easily. Its one thing to ride in a sponsored event with a chase car carrying your supplies for you however on your own the bike needs to be able carry that load by itself.
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Post by wheelbender6 on Dec 13, 2015 16:49:32 GMT -5
I wouldn't buy any 250cc motorcycle if I needed to do a lot of two-up riding.
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Post by rockynv on Dec 14, 2015 0:41:57 GMT -5
I wouldn't buy any 250cc motorcycle if I needed to do a lot of two-up riding. A 330 lb capacity bike regardless of the engine size is not that great for even a single geared up rider going on an adventure ride. I am a 250 lb rider and with my armored gear on for touring weigh in at close to 290 to 300 lbs leaving me with 30 to 40 lbs capacity for water, first aid/emergency supplies, rain suit, and changes of clothes. The capacity is just not there except for a few hours ride in the country but certainly not for any adventure riding. The premise is nice however there is not enough substance there for actually going out touring on your own unless you are of diminutive stature. If you are 150 lbs or below then this bike could work out nicely for adventure touring and it is a nice looking bike but not a serious contender for 6 foot plus tall riders who weigh in at over 200 lbs. |
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Post by JerryScript on Dec 14, 2015 1:43:11 GMT -5
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Post by rockynv on Dec 14, 2015 5:05:24 GMT -5
Yet major European and Japanese bike builders still appear to aim for a mid 400 lb carrying capacity even for their 150cc scooters. The last time I checked even the 125 cc and possibly down to the 50 cc Ditec scooters from Aprilia had a 465 lb capacity no matter what part of the world they were destined for. The Adventure Touring Class of bikes needs to be heavy duty and have a bit more capacity to carry the weight of geared up riders and supplies for Adventure Riding and if they don't then they really aren't Adventure Bikes but just stylized bikes dressed up to look the part. |
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Post by Jarlaxle on Dec 28, 2015 11:05:20 GMT -5
The CSC Cyclone was tough enough to tackle Baja. Suggested reading: 3000 Miles at 8000RPM.
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