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Post by geh3333 on Feb 11, 2016 17:32:45 GMT -5
The big gear in the center is the starter clutch gear. If you grab it , it pulls right off. Behind it is the starter clutch.
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Post by geh3333 on Feb 11, 2016 17:34:04 GMT -5
You may have to turn the gear to the left while pulling it out.
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Post by geh3333 on Feb 11, 2016 17:36:48 GMT -5
We were wondering what happened to you . it takes forever " sometimes" for parts to come in from China.
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Post by geh3333 on Feb 11, 2016 18:22:31 GMT -5
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Post by murkyapricot on Feb 11, 2016 21:36:40 GMT -5
Ok I see, now at this point do I actually need to take that special nut off or just the gear?
I'll post pictures in a few hours
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Post by geh3333 on Feb 11, 2016 21:51:26 GMT -5
Ok I see, now at this point do I actually need to take that special nut off or just the gear? I'll post pictures in a few hours You can just remove the gear for now . |
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Post by geh3333 on Feb 11, 2016 22:08:29 GMT -5
When my ncy starter clutch went bad , it was obvious, but when my stock starter clutch went , it was not so obvious. If you don't have any noticeable damage to the started clutch , you'll be in a position where it will prob be better to just buy a new one , since they are cheap and you already have the side cover open. Also at this point what are your other options ? It still may be bad , even if you see no damage . there can be something broke inside the clutch.
If you can take a pic of the side of the gear where it goes into the starter clutch . that way we can see signs of slippage.
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Post by rcq92130 on Feb 11, 2016 23:45:24 GMT -5
Well I'll be Struck down, George! Looks like you just may have been right all along. Metal fragments in that engine compartment could only have come from a few places, since there is no "pass through" to any other compartment. I suppose it COULD be the oil pump ... but Las Vegas oddsmakers now have you  -to-1 as being correct. BRAVO! |
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Post by geh3333 on Feb 11, 2016 23:57:14 GMT -5
Well I'll be Struck down, George! Looks like you just may have been right all along. Metal fragments in that engine compartment could only have come from a few places, since there is no "pass through" to any other compartment. I suppose it COULD be the oil pump ... but Las Vegas oddsmakers now have you -to-1 as being correct. BRAVO! Lol, I'm hoping its the starter clutch, and to be honest , not because I've been saying this all along , but just because the prob will be fixed. Also I completely understand the doubt since not many have had this prob before " at least from what I know " after having issues with 2 different starter clutches , i had a hard time looking the other way, lol. However I still may be wrong . |
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Post by geh3333 on Feb 12, 2016 0:02:53 GMT -5
Actually rcq, I believe there is a passage into the main crank case. Look in his picks on page 20. The whole at the bottom left, however the metal peices usually fall to the bottom of the crank case or get caught in the oil screen. The metal preices may be from the starter clutch or even the gear where the slippage occurs. I'm no so sure a bad oil pump will cause the issue he is having , so hopefully it is the starter clutch.
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Post by murkyapricot on Feb 12, 2016 1:45:25 GMT -5
 Not sure what I'm looking for but i should add If i put my finger through the hole that goes to the main crank that is where there seems to be the most metal pieces, also there is a small layer of dark thicker oil with a metal flake sheen |
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Post by rcq92130 on Feb 12, 2016 1:53:41 GMT -5
There are holes in the face of the clutch - thru them you can see cylindrical "pucks" that are called sprages.
I see one at about the 12:00 position, and another at about 7:00. These 2 are at least present and don't look messed up.
Can't tell what's over at 4:00 - kind of looks like something might be missing or funky, but from that photo can't quite see.
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Post by murkyapricot on Feb 12, 2016 10:18:35 GMT -5
Ill put up a video in a few hours
Is the starter clutch supposed to spin freely in both directions by hand? (The part with the teeth like looking things in that picture right behind that silver colored nut.
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Post by geh3333 on Feb 12, 2016 13:43:14 GMT -5
Ill put up a video in a few hours Is the starter clutch supposed to spin freely in both directions by hand? (The part with the teeth like looking things in that picture right behind that silver colored nut. Yeah that piece spins both ways" those are the needle bearings" . but the gear " while in" only spins one direction. If you can take a pick of all sides of the gear also . |
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Post by geh3333 on Feb 12, 2016 13:47:24 GMT -5
You say you can see metal fakes in the whole going into the crankcase, did you drain all of the oil ?
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-to-1 as being correct.
