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Post by murkyapricot on Jan 8, 2016 22:53:34 GMT -5
So you're saying i should pop off the gear behind the variator?
And yes days building up to the breakdown something didn't seem to be running right
And the was a light rattling that didn't seem familiar
This all started not long after I put synthetic oil in for the first time
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Post by rcq92130 on Jan 9, 2016 0:15:53 GMT -5
I've seen it pressed into the tadia engines, but I've seen then just tightened behind the variator and they go right into place. Its not like a bearing how they need pressed in. The crank shaft is beveled and the gear is beveled to fit right against it . Yes, George. I've never had any reason to mess around with that gear, but remember when Dan was building up my SuperEngine he had to heat/freeze the parts so they would more easily get pounded into position. Note what Murky just said, which may lend some evidence toward a starter clutch issue. |
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 10, 2016 17:18:16 GMT -5
I always figured the bevel was there so you didn't have to press it in.
Hey murky , don't worry about the gear behind the variator. I'd check the starter clutch . I know I mentioned the that gear , but I'm with rcq, I doubt that's the issue. I still believe your at the point where you need to check the starter clutch. If it were me I would have checked earlier , but that's only because its happened to me before . I'd like to see pics of the clutch before its removed and after. Also pics of the inside oof the clutch gear where the rollers contact it.
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 10, 2016 17:24:39 GMT -5
My first s clutch that Wasn't bad didn't show much damage . the only thing I saw was one of the rollers were out of place. The second one was destroyed . but with you symptoms I'd expect some sign of damage.
Sorry I've been Away for the past few days , wife was in the hospital again , but everything turned out good.
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Post by murkyapricot on Jan 10, 2016 17:25:43 GMT -5
I always figured the bevel was there so you didn't have to press it in. Hey murky , don't worry about the gear behind the variator. I'd check the starter clutch . I know I mentioned the that gear , but I'm with rcq, I doubt that's the issue. I still believe your at the point where you need to check the starter clutch. If it were me I would have checked earlier , but that's only because its happened to me before . I'd like to see pics of the clutch before its removed and after. Also pics of the inside oof the clutch gear where the rollers contact it. Alright I'll do all that as soon as the puller gets here Also i post pics of the timing tomorrow |
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 10, 2016 17:43:13 GMT -5
I always figured the bevel was there so you didn't have to press it in. Hey murky , don't worry about the gear behind the variator. I'd check the starter clutch . I know I mentioned the that gear , but I'm with rcq, I doubt that's the issue. I still believe your at the point where you need to check the starter clutch. If it were me I would have checked earlier , but that's only because its happened to me before . I'd like to see pics of the clutch before its removed and after. Also pics of the inside oof the clutch gear where the rollers contact it. Alright I'll do all that as soon as the puller gets here Also i post pics of the timing tomorrow I'll take pics of my first starter clutch " I still have it" and I'll take pics of where to look for the damage on the Gear. |
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 10, 2016 17:44:11 GMT -5
On my way home from Pittsburgh right now , so it will be a little later .
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Post by rcq92130 on Jan 10, 2016 17:48:01 GMT -5
On my way home from Pittsburgh right now , so it will be a little later . Gosh, George - I hope she is OK! No one promises us even 1 more day. Don't put off to tomorrow anything you should do today. Drive carefully. |
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 10, 2016 20:35:38 GMT -5
On my way home from Pittsburgh right now , so it will be a little later . Gosh, George - I hope she is OK! No one promises us even 1 more day. Don't put off to tomorrow anything you should do today. Drive carefully. Just made it home , I'll get some pics posted. |
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 10, 2016 21:03:20 GMT -5
The roller on top is in place , the other 2 are not. When I pulled the gear from the clutch , one of the rollers fell out of place. They should not do that. The rollers are held in place and should not turn " out of place " . I ended up popping the other one out of place by prying on it with a screwdriver. If you find that one is out of place , you cannot just put it back in place . that means something is broke inside . I need to find the gear , I had it a few days ago and now I cannot find it . I'll post a pic in a few.  |
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 10, 2016 21:16:39 GMT -5
Here is a pic of he inside " behind the side cover" . the big gear in the center pulls straight out . you do not need to take the starter nut off to pull the gear off. You can also see that I did not have to take the muffler or rear wheel off to remove the side cover. You do have to remove the 2 bolts holding the swingarm to the side cover a and after pulling the side cover the swingarm will drop to the floor but will still be attached at the axle. Remember to hold the swingarm up some " almost in place " while installing the side cover or the swingarm will not swing back up in place , it will be stuck under the cover.  |
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 10, 2016 21:18:31 GMT -5
I'm still looking for the gear
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Post by murkyapricot on Feb 10, 2016 20:24:35 GMT -5
Ok so i know it took awhile (shouldnt have ordered the tool from china ) But here's what it looks like, i don't see anything wrong except that the gasket is ripped, but most likely from me removing it There was alot if little black Specs in the oil, which was brand new and never run  |
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Post by murkyapricot on Feb 10, 2016 20:34:20 GMT -5
Actually there is quite a bit of broken metal like peices
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Post by geh3333 on Feb 11, 2016 17:30:57 GMT -5
You need to pull the gear from the clutch. It pulls straight out.
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