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Post by rcq92130 on Sept 17, 2015 20:39:50 GMT -5
Wait! P-guy, you are the resident expert on this. Are you saying it is NOT important to check ring gap when installing a new piston/jug? I forgot to on my first BBK, and always suspected the fit was too tight, leading to the soft seize I had 800 miles later. Is that wrong, and checking the gap (and adjusting it) isn't really important? I'm Jackin with joisey.  Dan and I have already discussed this earlier today. www.dansgaragetalk.com/topic/254-61mm-pistons-taida-cast-vs-ncy-cast-vs-taida-forged-high-comp/I was gunna go over it but we/I covered this more in depth in the above. I might add with the Piston to Cylinder Clearance and how it relates to different Ring end Gaps. If I have .0018 piston to cylinder and .030 (wow) end gap in a 2.250 bore can't show me nuthin on a leak down, psi or dyno. Now .005 Piston to Cylinder and I have .030 gap is a Slightly different story. Other than too tight sand the ends butting together it is a Very Much Over Rated Subject.  P-Guy ~~~~ that was one of the more interesting conversations i remember ever seeing here. Thanks~! Didn't understand it all, but learned a lot The link seemed to end on 8/31, but you said you & Dan spoke today? I was going to ask him about this (it's the one part of the build he didn't video), but don't want to be insulting. Should I msg him or is it OK on my build? Or do you know? |
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Post by pistonguy on Sept 17, 2015 21:23:25 GMT -5
By pm to Dm.
Theres allot of redundant measurements and components to be inspected and recorded, Cylinder Prep, many are Room #101 stuff just gets stuffy including all this in a vid.
Probably measure a couple hundred 60 and 61mm ring gaps and will all be .011 as seen in my pics.
Same with 62-63mm
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Post by rcq92130 on Sept 17, 2015 21:42:07 GMT -5
By pm to Dm. Theres allot of redundant measurements and components to be inspected and recorded, Cylinder Prep, many are Room #101 stuff just gets stuffy including all this in a vid. Probably measure a couple hundred 60 and 61mm ring gaps and will all be .011 as seen in my pics. Same with 62-63mm Ummm So, relax and shut up, it's all good .......... ? |
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Post by pistonguy on Sept 17, 2015 22:15:53 GMT -5
By pm to Dm. Theres allot of redundant measurements and components to be inspected and recorded, Cylinder Prep, many are Room #101 stuff just gets stuffy including all this in a vid. Probably measure a couple hundred 60 and 61mm ring gaps and will all be .011 as seen in my pics. Same with 62-63mm Ummm So, relax and shut up, it's all good .......... ? Yup |
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Post by rcq92130 on Sept 17, 2015 22:23:25 GMT -5
Thank you, P-Guy. I REALLY didn't want to bring this up, but didn't want to sit quietly like an idiot if i SHOULD bring it up. Appreciate the guidance and also the great link!
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Post by rcq92130 on Sept 17, 2015 22:24:28 GMT -5
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Post by jerseyboy on Sept 18, 2015 7:13:06 GMT -5
Wisco has a chart on their site with a formula for all sizes and applications.
All it takes is one over sized ring to destroy a jug,piston,and possibly the valves.
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Post by pistonguy on Sept 18, 2015 10:02:33 GMT -5
Wisco has a chart on their site with a formula for all sizes and applications. All it takes is one over sized ring to destroy a jug,piston,and possibly the valves. One of these folks round here was on that team that wrote those destructions. What do you need to know? and we do remember the Most important part of installing those Curclips right? hurry search gggl.  |
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Post by jerseyboy on Sept 18, 2015 12:43:56 GMT -5
Wisco has a chart on their site with a formula for all sizes and applications. All it takes is one over sized ring to destroy a jug,piston,and possibly the valves. One of these folks round here was on that team that wrote those destructions. What do you need to know? and we do remember the Most important part of installing those Curclips right? hurry search gggl. ATM I dont need to know anything but if I ever do,,you will be the first one I ask.......yeah on the circlips,,after they are in the groove I like to give them a spin too confirm they are snapped in...a little oil in the groove never hurt either....I use Rotella syn-blend for assembly lube on all my motors,,have it in a little squirt can ready to roll  Man its a nice day out here,,Im gonna go fire up the mini bike and let her rip for a few miles,,before we know it,,the cold will be here. BTW-Thats a great post on that other forum pistonguy,,very interesting. |
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Post by pistonguy on Sept 18, 2015 21:28:22 GMT -5
One of these folks round here was on that team that wrote those destructions. What do you need to know? and we do remember the Most important part of installing those Curclips right? hurry search gggl. ATM I dont need to know anything but if I ever do,,you will be the first one I ask.......yeah on the circlips,,after they are in the groove I like to give them a spin too confirm they are snapped in...a little oil in the groove never hurt either....I use Rotella syn-blend for assembly lube on all my motors,,have it in a little squirt can ready to roll Man its a nice day out here,,Im gonna go fire up the mini bike and let her rip for a few miles,,before we know it,,the cold will be here. BTW-Thats a great post on that other forum pistonguy,,very interesting. Thanks there Jersey. I have jus a lil expereince to offer. and bust some chops once in awhile, and I'll say the why not just the hear say just because. Clips, C'mon you got some skills. 12 or 6 O'clock Never 9 or 3,  its Not a Myth. The rest is  |
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Post by pistonguy on Sept 19, 2015 16:48:05 GMT -5
I waana see her run!
RCQ were's thee oil cooler going to mount?
Like to sse pics of the intake/carb fitment.
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Post by rcq92130 on Sept 19, 2015 17:23:24 GMT -5
FedX truck just passed Salina, Utah ..... delivery Wednesday.
Dan suggested the oil cooler bolted to the flywheel fan .... I'm gonna see if there is a less conspicuous place since I'd like this to look stock.
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Post by jerseyboy on Sept 19, 2015 21:55:26 GMT -5
Nice,,yeah might try to mount it in front of the valve cover someplace,,even if you put a small fan on the cooler,,that would be too cool If you bolt it to the flywheel fan cover all the heat from the cooler is going to go through the engine cooling covers,,that may cause the motor to run a bit hotter...I would wrap the header pipe on that sucker too,,i did mine and it made a huge difference with heat around the motor |
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Post by rcq92130 on Sept 20, 2015 1:15:40 GMT -5
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Post by jerseyboy on Sept 20, 2015 8:42:58 GMT -5
I saw this video a few days ago |
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