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Post by Skunk Shampoo on Feb 1, 2015 4:38:38 GMT -5
This was hard to watch. A woman falls asleep and brushes up against an oncoming semi. She wasn't even wearing a helmet. Fortunately, it looks like she escaped with a bit of road rash.
This is another video I came across and wanted to share.
This guy is like the polar opposite to the woman in the first vid. Alert and wearing all the gear. Didn't stop a car from running a red light and taking his bike out from under him (he seems fine, but his bike is smashed)... I'd like to think about what to do in a situation like that.
The mistakes in the first video are obvious, but is there anything the guy in the second video could have done differently to avoid the collision?
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Post by Paladin on Feb 1, 2015 7:11:27 GMT -5
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Post by scooter on Feb 1, 2015 9:33:54 GMT -5
This was hard to watch. A woman falls asleep and brushes up against an oncoming semi. She wasn't even wearing a helmet. Fortunately, it looks like she escaped with a bit of road rash. This guy is like the polar opposite to the woman in the first vid. Alert and wearing all the gear. Didn't stop a car from running a red light and taking his bike out from under him (he seems fine, but his bike is smashed)... I'd like to think about what to do in a situation like that. That was a close call. A second earlier and she'd have been road kill. In the second video it is clear that a car was coming, however we have to remember that our eyes are not like a camera, which can see a whole area at all times. Our eyes can focus on one area, like straight ahead, and we don't always see out of our peripheral vision. I can't count the times, since my accident, that I didn't realize a car was approaching an intersection until I was already passing it. We're human and we miss a lot of what happens around us. Most of us don't have the concentration to be looking back and forth constantly. We are paying attention to what's ahead, we are thinking about where we are going, and perhaps things that have been going on that day, etc. It only takes a second for a car to pull up to a corner that just a moment ago was not there. Personally I feel that red light runners need a hard kick in the tush. They have one job at a light, and that's to wait for the darned thing to turn green. If you can't do that, you shouldn't be allowed to drive. |
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Post by JerryScript on Feb 1, 2015 15:28:17 GMT -5
Intersections are the most dangerous. You really need to look both ways twice, even if you have had the green for a while. This is the worst scooter crash I've ever seen, and the scooter had the green way before either the scooter or car entered the intersection:
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Post by tvnacman on Feb 1, 2015 16:51:47 GMT -5
Intersections are the most dangerous. You really need to look both ways twice, even if you have had the green for a while. This is the worst scooter crash I've ever seen, and the scooter had the green way before either the scooter or car entered the intersection: Poor guy never had a chance , they should charge the driver as a criminal . John |
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Post by scooter on Feb 1, 2015 19:00:14 GMT -5
Intersections are the most dangerous. You really need to look both ways twice, even if you have had the green for a while. This is the worst scooter crash I've ever seen, and the scooter had the green way before either the scooter or car entered the intersection: I find it interesting they just leave the guy lying there alone. |
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Post by JerryScript on Feb 1, 2015 19:23:18 GMT -5
You don't move someone who has been through that kind of trauma, you could paralyze them or kill them by moving them. You comfort them as best you can till the paramedics arrive.
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Post by scooter on Feb 1, 2015 19:31:41 GMT -5
You don't move someone who has been through that kind of trauma, you could paralyze them or kill them by moving them. You comfort them as best you can till the paramedics arrive. I agree. I meant that they are both on the other side of the car, leaving him there alone. I would not leave him until the ambulance arrived. If something happens, like he goes into a seizure, I could tell them what happened, plus he might need CPR if he were to stop breathing. Not only that but he might be afraid and need someone to be with him. It just seems right to sit with him, not wander around leaving him there alone. |
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Post by jerseyboy on Feb 1, 2015 20:31:37 GMT -5
Intersections are the most dangerous. You really need to look both ways twice, even if you have had the green for a while. This is the worst scooter crash I've ever seen, and the scooter had the green way before either the scooter or car entered the intersection: Ive seen this one before,, Those are the ones I always talk about jerry,,35mph at an intersection,,man you always have to be on your toes when approaching one,,if you cant see for some reason,,I hope you know Jesus...lol.Atleast the a-hole cager rung his bell on the jersey barrier afterwards.... I dont think the scooter rider was alive for long after that one,,and if he was,,hes going to have a long tough road ahead of him..my prayers go out...... Man if that chick was over to the left 6 inches more she would be road pizza,,how the heck do you fall asleep on a scooter,drunk,drugs,seizure maybe?? |
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Post by JoeyBee on Feb 1, 2015 23:12:52 GMT -5
Intersections are the most dangerous. You really need to look both ways twice, even if you have had the green for a while. This is the worst scooter crash I've ever seen, and the scooter had the green way before either the scooter or car entered the intersection: Ive seen this one before,, Those are the ones I always talk about jerry,,35mph at an intersection,,man you always have to be on your toes when approaching one,,if you cant see for some reason,,I hope you know Jesus...lol.Atleast the a-hole cager rung his bell on the jersey barrier afterwards.... I dont think the scooter rider was alive for long after that one,,and if he was,,hes going to have a long tough road ahead of him..my prayers go out...... Man if that chick was over to the left 6 inches more she would be road pizza,,how the heck do you fall asleep on a scooter,drunk,drugs,seizure maybe?? It looked like Russia, so my guess would be that she was drunk. |
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Post by jerseyboy on Feb 2, 2015 1:17:31 GMT -5
I cant believe that chick made it past the whole side of that truck,,tandems and all without getting slammed or sucked under those tires,,man she better wake up next time....buy a lottery ticket also.
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Post by rockynv on Feb 2, 2015 5:11:49 GMT -5
Rules of being the first responder to an accident dictate an attempt at making the scene safe and calling for assistance before rendering aid. If the scene can't be made safe then you attempt to stay with the victim if possible informing the authorities that there was an accident with injuries and that the scene is not safe. You should if possible enlist a bystander when available to make the scene safe and make the 911 call for you.
The second video with the red light runner was totally avoidable as the rider appeared to be counting down the pedestrian timer and did a hole shot the moment the light turned green without considering the turning traffic still in motion to his left.
In the third you see the officer responding making the scene safe while getting assistance.
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Post by Paladin on Feb 2, 2015 5:28:16 GMT -5
Intersections are the most dangerous. You really need to look both ways twice, even if you have had the green for a while. This is the worst scooter crash I've ever seen, and the scooter had the green way before either the scooter or car entered the intersection: It bothers me. At my age I would be dead. It does not look like an "intersection." There is a four lane divided highway. The gap in the center divider is at most a single lane. The pavement is marked for lanes for crossing it -- looks more like a pedestrian crossing. I cannot figure the speed the scooter was doing, but was fast enough for the rider to fly over 10 feet into the air and the scooter bounced at least 20 feet backward. |
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Post by jerseyboy on Feb 2, 2015 10:34:01 GMT -5
Rules of being the first responder to an accident dictate an attempt at making the scene safe and calling for assistance before rendering aid. If the scene can't be made safe then you attempt to stay with the victim if possible informing the authorities that there was an accident with injuries and that the scene is not safe. You should if possible enlist a bystander when available to make the scene safe and make the 911 call for you. The second video with the red light runner was totally avoidable as the rider appeared to be counting down the pedestrian timer and did a hole shot the moment the light turned green without considering the turning traffic still in motion to his left. In the third you see the officer responding making the scene safe while getting assistance. I was thinking the same thing,,if he would have approached the light a bit more cautious,,he could have avoided that mess....always approach an intersection with all your senses fully alert! The only time I ever get off the edge of my seat and relax a bit is out in the country,,but then Im always on the lookout for animals... |
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Post by rockynv on Feb 3, 2015 0:52:17 GMT -5
Out in the country its usually a flock of Turkey Buzzards around the next blind corner that get you. Once around Midnight I did sense a dark silent creature running alongside the bike and that was the one the really scared me. Think Florida Panther in the hill country chasing you after Midnight on a moonless fall night coming out of the pitch darkness. Glad I was on the Aprilia 250 and not the Lance with the flaky ignition pickup and vacuum pump that would run dry at higher levels of throttle.
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