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Post by devinchasteen15 on Jan 29, 2015 22:07:50 GMT -5
The hoses from the tank to the petock and to the carb and just pictures of all around the top with the wires also. I noticed there is a canister on the right side like across from the carb. I am figureing that is from tyhe PAIR system which you do not have anymore So if that is the case disconnect the vacuum hose at the INTAKE MANIFOLD and plug it there and you can take the canister and its hoses out. Could I use jb weld to plug the hole on the intake manifold? I don't have any rubber nipple covers at the moment. |
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Post by alleyoop on Jan 29, 2015 22:26:53 GMT -5
Cut the Vacuum line and leave about 1 inch and then bend the vacuum line over and zip tie it. I would not trust jb weld it may just suck it right into the intake.
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Post by devinchasteen15 on Jan 29, 2015 22:33:20 GMT -5
Cut the Vacuum line and leave about 1 inch and then bend the vacuum line over and zip tie it. I would not trust jb weld it may just suck it right into the intake. OK will do. Thanks |
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Post by onewheeldrive on Jan 29, 2015 23:01:58 GMT -5
The last time it started, was that before or after you took the head and cylinder off?
What are your valves set at? It was asked earlier, but I don't see a reply anywhere.
As for the kickstarting, it's almost always easier to start with electric-- unless it's freezing and your battery has no juice.
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Post by tvnacman on Jan 30, 2015 5:27:39 GMT -5
have you checked the oil ?
not cooling shroud .
I agree with onewheeldrive
John
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Post by devinchasteen15 on Jan 30, 2015 8:03:32 GMT -5
The last time it started, was that before or after you took the head and cylinder off? What are your valves set at? It was asked earlier, but I don't see a reply anywhere. As for the kickstarting, it's almost always easier to start with electric-- unless it's freezing and your battery has no juice. It started after. The valves are at .003 on both. |
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Post by devinchasteen15 on Jan 30, 2015 8:05:42 GMT -5
have you checked the oil ? not cooling shroud . I agree with onewheeldrive John Yes. Has plenty of oil. |
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Post by jerseyboy on Jan 30, 2015 16:10:22 GMT -5
Harbor Freight has a great float charger for like $10,,I leave it on my scoot battery all Winter,,and every time I hit the button that sucker spins like a top...best thing for a battery in the winter IMO.
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Post by alleyoop on Jan 30, 2015 16:29:33 GMT -5
Seeing as we have gone through a lot and still will not start. At this point I suspect it may be out of time. So take off the valve cover line up the cam sprocket with the TWO little holes even with the head. And then Take a Picture of it aligned so we can see that your doing it correct and no questions asked THEN move down to the Flywheel and take a Picture of the Flywheel and where the timing mark on the case is pointing to on the flywheel. Other than that at this point I cannot thing of anything else that we have not gone through. Alleyoop like these pictures:   |
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Post by jerseyboy on Jan 30, 2015 21:32:03 GMT -5
Thats what I thought right from the beginning,,I know an out of time motor when I hear one....
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Post by devinchasteen15 on Jan 31, 2015 1:14:01 GMT -5
Seeing as we have gone through a lot and still will not start. At this point I suspect it may be out of time. So take off the valve cover line up the cam sprocket with the TWO little holes even with the head. And then Take a Picture of it aligned so we can see that your doing it correct and no questions asked THEN move down to the Flywheel and take a Picture of the Flywheel and where the timing mark on the case is pointing to on the flywheel. Other than that at this point I cannot thing of anything else that we have not gone through. Alleyoop like these pictures: OK I will do this next time Lol. This is the first time I've checked the forum today. I did get some pics of the wires today. I'm pretty confused about it. |
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Post by devinchasteen15 on Jan 31, 2015 1:39:13 GMT -5
Its weird I didn't find ground wires connected to a bolt on the frame. The thick green wire from the valve cover goes straight to the battery. The thin green wire just goes on into the wire harness, I didnt trace it all the way down I was in a hurry. The red positive wire is taped onto the blue wire that is connected to the red and yellow wire I posted earlier.   I also found two connectors that are just sitting not connected to any thing.   This one ^ looks like it is missing a wire |
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Post by devinchasteen15 on Jan 31, 2015 1:41:34 GMT -5
The other negative green wire is connected to a blue wire that runs up the front of the scoot.  |
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Post by devinchasteen15 on Jan 31, 2015 1:43:14 GMT -5
The other thin green wire you see in the picture above is taped to another green wire that runs up the front of the scoot and is connected to the yellow and green wire
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Post by alleyoop on Jan 31, 2015 14:35:01 GMT -5
Wow!! Ok do this to at least ground the motor to the frame. Take that THICK green wire that is connected to the Bolt on the Valve cover take the other END and find a BOLT on the frame and connect it there. Then Find Follow the Wire from the NEGATIVE POST on the battery and also go to the same spot on the FRAME as the THICK GREEN from the motor.
That at least will give you good ground to both and anything.
On a scoot normally the STOP LIGHT wire is GREEN and YELLOW as is the wire going to the SOLENOID.
All green wires are all GROUND WIRES on 99% percent of the scoots some of the OLD scoots used BLACK as ground but the CHINO scoots all use GREEN for ground.
Alleyoop
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..BAD TO THE BONE..
