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Post by geh3333 on Jan 4, 2015 17:17:14 GMT -5
This is how I solved the crossbar issue.  Woah, with a pipe that tall, where do you put the engine? Wouldn't the seat be in the way or do you remove the bucket under the seat? You have to poke a hole in your seat so the carb and filter sits between your legs . Just a joke! Lol |
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Post by tvnacman on Jan 4, 2015 20:36:06 GMT -5
Maybe a fart sucker .
John
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Post by jerseyboy on Jan 4, 2015 21:12:08 GMT -5
lol..thats a good one..I want to see it in the scoot running,,would love to see how it works  |
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 4, 2015 23:13:19 GMT -5
You know what , lain may actually be right. My underseat compartment sits only a few inches or less above my carb. I think I'd have to remove it to fit that type of manifold setup.
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Post by rcq92130 on Jan 5, 2015 0:39:30 GMT -5
I always thought the butterfly inside the carb. was pretty harsh ... but, then, others may not be as "extended" as am I.
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Post by tvnacman on Jan 5, 2015 5:41:57 GMT -5
if your riding with swamp , it will make your exhaust stink  I don't know how long the engine will last without the shroud . John |
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Post by jerseyboy on Jan 5, 2015 7:19:06 GMT -5
You know what , lain may actually be right. My underseat compartment sits only a few inches or less above my carb. I think I'd have to remove it to fit that type of manifold setup. Yeah that,, Or cut a big notch in it and have the vacuum cap sticking out right where your bean bag is.. |
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Post by xyshannen on Jan 5, 2015 10:54:41 GMT -5
jerseyboy tvnacman geh3333 JerryScript dyoung1167 Geez, get busy for a couple of days n you guys go nuts.  Jersyboy, No it isn't a "ram air". It is a tunnel ram and it does act as a fuel and air excelerator (I know that's not the right technical term, i'm just getting up and my brain isn't quite working) Jerry, I don't know how it affected my top end performance vs my bottom end. I did so much other stuff to the motor at the same time this was installed that it runs so much better in all ends it's hard to say. I mean with the cam I have installed.. It pulls like a monster all the way up to 8k. dyoung, An actual ram air works well on a carb set up and with having a pilot and a main jet it would have little effect on your air fuel mix at idle speeds. Think about it, at idle seeds you are not moving fast enough, or at all so little extra air is being forced into the engine. Tune your main jet for the extra air and you will be fine. But this point is mute for my setup as I do not have "ram air" Jerry, It does get a lil warm but not enough to make a difference how the engine runs once it gets hot. Also since the engine compartment on my scoot is very closed off. I do have a cold air scoop on the side of thee body to keep things cool in there, and help feed cold air right to the carb. Since this pic, I installed a 45 degree clocking spacer that turns the carb an puts my UNI filter pointed right at this scoop to suck cold air when at speed. John, That pic was just after the rebuild. The cover was put on right after this. Remember you commented on the paint I used. An hour later.  The intake on the carb just cleared the cross bar wile out of the engen. After I mounted it in the scoot it changed the position of the bar causing it to hit the carb just enough I could not put a filter on. It still ran but riding like that isn't smart, so I installed the a clocking spacer to lift the crab and point it towards the air scoop. This solved the clearance issue.. I need to get an updated pic of it how it looks now. LOL at fart sucker. I had to cut a channel in my under seat compartment. I can still use the compartment, but obviously small objects don't go in this compartment. Sides my scoot has a pretty large trunk that more than meets my storage needs. It runs And John remember, that's your CDI in there.  
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Post by jerseyboy on Jan 5, 2015 11:42:33 GMT -5
Shes a roarin nice there..runs good!
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 5, 2015 12:06:05 GMT -5
jerseyboy tvnacman geh3333 JerryScript dyoung1167 Geez, get busy for a couple of days n you guys go nuts. Jersyboy, No it isn't a "ram air". It is a tunnel ram and it does act as a fuel and air excelerator (I know that's not the right technical term, i'm just getting up and my brain isn't quite working) Jerry, I don't know how it affected my top end performance vs my bottom end. I did so much other stuff to the motor at the same time this was installed that it runs so much better in all ends it's hard to say. I mean with the cam I have installed.. It pulls like a monster all the way up to 8k. dyoung, An actual ram air works well on a carb set up and with having a pilot and a main jet it would have little effect on your air fuel mix at idle speeds. Think about it, at idle seeds you are not moving fast enough, or at all so little extra air is being forced into the engine. Tune your main jet for the extra air and you will be fine. But this point is mute for my setup as I do not have "ram air" Jerry, It does get a lil warm but not enough to make a difference how the engine runs once it gets hot. Also since the engine compartment on my scoot is very closed off. I do have a cold air scoop on the side of thee body to keep things cool in there, and help feed cold air right to the carb. Since this pic, I installed a 45 degree clocking spacer that turns the carb an puts my UNI filter pointed right at this scoop to suck cold air when at speed. John, That pic was just after the rebuild. The cover was put on right after this. Remember you commented on the paint I used. An hour later. The intake on the carb just cleared the cross bar wile out of the engen. After I mounted it in the scoot it changed the position of the bar causing it to hit the carb just enough I could not put a filter on. It still ran but riding like that isn't smart, so I installed the a clocking spacer to lift the crab and point it towards the air scoop. This solved the clearance issue.. I need to get an updated pic of it how it looks now. LOL at fart sucker. I had to cut a channel in my under seat compartment. I can still use the compartment, but obviously small objects don't go in this compartment. Sides my scoot has a pretty large trunk that more than meets my storage needs. It runs And John remember, that's your CDI in there. What kinda paint did u use ? |
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Post by jerseyboy on Jan 5, 2015 17:19:04 GMT -5
Hey John,,
I got the performance intake today,super fast shipping,awesome price!!,,it looks really bada$$,I mocked it up and I'm pretty sure there will be enough room,,wont know until I get my BBK finished later this week.
Thanks!
Tom from Jersey
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Post by JerryScript on Jan 5, 2015 21:12:16 GMT -5
Sounds great! The video makes it look like your engine shroud air scoop is pointed straight up to the sky. If it is, any issues with rain, or does it just drain through the cracks no problem?
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 5, 2015 21:54:32 GMT -5
Sounds great! The video makes it look like your engine shroud air scoop is pointed straight up to the sky. If it is, any issues with rain, or does it just drain through the cracks no problem? I used a 45degree PVC , it sticks out a little further so that air gets forced into the fan . the fan scoops u buy do not stick out past the floorboard, so more then likely the air flows right around it. |
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 5, 2015 22:08:15 GMT -5
jerseyboy tvnacman geh3333 JerryScript dyoung1167 Geez, get busy for a couple of days n you guys go nuts. Jersyboy, No it isn't a "ram air". It is a tunnel ram and it does act as a fuel and air excelerator (I know that's not the right technical term, i'm just getting up and my brain isn't quite working) Jerry, I don't know how it affected my top end performance vs my bottom end. I did so much other stuff to the motor at the same time this was installed that it runs so much better in all ends it's hard to say. I mean with the cam I have installed.. It pulls like a monster all the way up to 8k. dyoung, An actual ram air works well on a carb set up and with having a pilot and a main jet it would have little effect on your air fuel mix at idle speeds. Think about it, at idle seeds you are not moving fast enough, or at all so little extra air is being forced into the engine. Tune your main jet for the extra air and you will be fine. But this point is mute for my setup as I do not have "ram air" Jerry, It does get a lil warm but not enough to make a difference how the engine runs once it gets hot. Also since the engine compartment on my scoot is very closed off. I do have a cold air scoop on the side of thee body to keep things cool in there, and help feed cold air right to the carb. Since this pic, I installed a 45 degree clocking spacer that turns the carb an puts my UNI filter pointed right at this scoop to suck cold air when at speed. John, That pic was just after the rebuild. The cover was put on right after this. Remember you commented on the paint I used. An hour later. The intake on the carb just cleared the cross bar wile out of the engen. After I mounted it in the scoot it changed the position of the bar causing it to hit the carb just enough I could not put a filter on. It still ran but riding like that isn't smart, so I installed the a clocking spacer to lift the crab and point it towards the air scoop. This solved the clearance issue.. I need to get an updated pic of it how it looks now. LOL at fart sucker. I had to cut a channel in my under seat compartment. I can still use the compartment, but obviously small objects don't go in this compartment. Sides my scoot has a pretty large trunk that more than meets my storage needs. It runs And John remember, that's your CDI in there. Sounds a lot like mine , just not as deep of a sound as mine " may be because of the recording " if u use a phone for video it usually doesn't pick up the deep sounds. I'll post a vid of mine 2mro |
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Post by xyshannen on Jan 5, 2015 22:25:59 GMT -5
Yeah Jerry bout the only thing that scoop does is help keep from sucking the heated air coming off of the header. I just put it on there because I only paid like 4 bucks for it. Being winter I'm not too conserned about putting something better on there. I'll end up doing something like what Geh has before summer.
Geh, it does sound hella deeper than my cell could pick up.
Tom, one thing I tried and it almost worked was using a small radiator hose to attach the carb to the intake. The rubber connector that comes with these intakes has a gap between the 2 that pushes the carb up against the cross bar. 1/16th of an inch less and it would have worked and saved me a bunch of trouble.
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