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Post by psychedelicode on Aug 15, 2014 18:06:28 GMT -5
Just found a nice cheap burgman 400. Considering buying it. What do you guys think?
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Post by psychedelicode on Aug 15, 2014 18:08:57 GMT -5
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Post by Jarlaxle on Aug 15, 2014 18:21:46 GMT -5
Figure tires, coolant flush, and a belt if you buy it.
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Post by oldchopperguy on Aug 16, 2014 10:50:01 GMT -5
The Burgman is a very nice scooter!
This one's a little aged, but with low miles... It should still be a GREAT ride for a long, LONG time with only minor maintenance. Hoses, lines, belts, tires and such do need replacing once in a while, but not often.
I'd say the asking price is a little high, only because of age, but he is open to offers, it's very low-miles and $2-grand is a good starting place.
Last year, I upsized from a Chinese Xingyue 150 to a used Kymco 250, to keep up with traffic. If you're used to a short-wheelbase scooter, the Burgman will seem mighty "long" to you at first, and a little heavy, but it IS designed with highway cruising in mind. Being old and arthritic, I opted for a short Kymco Grandvista 250 which is similar in size, and general handling, to most Chinese 150's but unless you do a whole lot of very tight-turn riding in congested city/parking-lot environments, you'll REALLY like the long, smooth-riding Burgman... And the 400cc of extra power is ALWAYS welcome when you want it.
If you can get it for a good price, and are willing to do the few minor maintenance items it may need, I'd definitely say "go for it!" It's a nice, high-end, long-lasting ride you can enjoy for many years to come!
Ride safe,
Leo in Texas
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Post by bnc on Aug 16, 2014 14:01:09 GMT -5
Make sure that it is currently registered or registered no operation. I made the mistake with the first scooter I bought of not realizing that. DMV wanted nearly $600 to register it because it was expired and not registered no op.
I have a friend who has a Burgman 400. He says Suzuki parts prices are way higher than Honda parts. Other than that he likes it.
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Post by kevinharrell on Aug 16, 2014 15:27:19 GMT -5
A 400cc Burgman for about the price of a 250cc Chinese bike, can't beat that.
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Post by psychedelicode on Aug 16, 2014 20:52:15 GMT -5
So i test drove the 'burg. dang that is one nice scoot. plenty of power...80 on the freeway was a piece of cake. But my ol lady has a point. What am i going to do with two scoots? She refuses to ride after my accident last year. and as much as i would love getting a highway scoot. the missus put the brakes on anything larger than 100cc. Saddening....really. But hey, I cant take my dog on a burg. but I can on my tgb.
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Post by SylvreKat on Aug 16, 2014 23:36:27 GMT -5
I dunno, psych. I bet you can add some kind of seat bag, then take your dog on the 'burg!
Are you a lead foot driver? Or whatever the equivalent name would be for a scoot-driver? If so, then your wife is right and stay small. If not, then sell the little one and go for the big dog. And explain it actually can be safer for you, 'cause there's just so much more of it to be seen. Plus more throttle to get you out of sudden tight spots.
Don't break your fellow Dawgs' hearts here, psyche!
>'Kat
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Post by oldchopperguy on Aug 17, 2014 0:09:15 GMT -5
Psychedelicode
Please, PLEASE tell the missus from a fellow who's been riding for more than fifty years... The 400cc Burgman is MUCH safer than any 100cc or smaller ride. I absolutely do NOT understand people thinking that any vehicle capable of getting out of its own way is "dangerous". For seven years, I "white-knuckled" it on my 150, trying to ride with one eye on the road, and one on the mirrors, hoping to avoid the dreaded rear-ender by a car doing 65, while I'm riding 50 in a 35 zone.
My Kymco 250 is not nearly as capable as a Burgman 400, but is MUCH safer than my old 150, and light-years safer than a100cc or smaller. The small-displacement scooters are fun, and have a place in low-speed applications, but the power, braking, handling and all-round real-life riding properties associated with larger-displacement bikes FAR eclipse the smaller scoots.
I've ridden more than a million miles, over fifty years, and while I appreciate the smaller bikes in their proper roles, I must say that I find the larger-displacement rides INFINITELY safer in the long run... If you want, PM me and I'll give you my phone number and would be happy to speak to the missus... I want you to be as safe as possible.
Sincerely,
Leo in Texas
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Post by Jarlaxle on Aug 17, 2014 11:46:48 GMT -5
A Burgy is also MUCH more stable in a crosswind!
My 2012 gets 55-58mpg. You might top that if you're smaller than my 250lb self.
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Post by rockynv on Aug 17, 2014 11:51:29 GMT -5
What Leo said.
Unless you have a real problem obeying speed laws the 400 will be much safer than the 100 as long as the weight does not overwhelm you. I will note that with my bad knees I found the Burgman a bit harder to balance at a stop due to the seat height. A 30 to 32 inch seat height works best for me so the 27 inch on the Burgman puts some extra stress on the knees.
The 2003 has about a 400 lb dry weight so it should be somewhere around 425 lbs with gas, oil and coolant in it.
By Kelly Blue Book the miles are about right for a $1,500 trade in value and $2,255 purchased from a dealer with some kind of warranty making the $2,000 asking price on the high side for a private sale however this one has been listed for at least 27 days and was just reduced 6 days ago so the seller may be motivated enough to meet you at $1,700 to $1,800.
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Post by spandi on Aug 17, 2014 19:43:09 GMT -5
All well and good, but what are those markings on the side of the fairing? (they don't appear on any other AN 400)
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Post by oldchopperguy on Aug 17, 2014 20:16:11 GMT -5
All well and good, but what are those markings on the side of the fairing? (they don't appear on any other AN 400) I think those are just aftermarket decorative decals. In the CL ad, it looks like an Eagle-head on the fender, and something else on the fairing. Hey, at least it's NOT "Hello Kitty"... LOL! Leo in Texas
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Post by spandi on Aug 17, 2014 22:20:38 GMT -5
Well Leo, I thought for a minute something was mounted, holes drilled, then whatever it was had been removed.
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Post by rockynv on Aug 17, 2014 22:46:10 GMT -5
Well Leo, I thought for a minute something was mounted, holes drilled, then whatever it was had been removed. Eagle on the fender and possibly a rider on a bike on either side of the fairing.
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