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Post by millsc on Mar 19, 2013 20:14:24 GMT -5
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Post by JR on Mar 19, 2013 20:56:22 GMT -5
That's a bummer millsc. Got to spend that extra and find the words Gates Powerlink, only thing I'll buy. I hate walking, that's why I don't own a Ford! ;D
JR
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Post by alleyoop on Mar 19, 2013 21:14:58 GMT -5
Yea and the quality control put a i instead of a Lin spelling Kevlar(HAHA). Those are stamped on automatically as they go down the conveyor belt even before they are cut and actually made into each individual belt. What a scam Alleyoop
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Post by millsc on Mar 19, 2013 21:27:24 GMT -5
it wasn't many pieces left it was mostly powder and string like it exploded
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Post by scootertrash on Mar 19, 2013 21:33:20 GMT -5
I bought a cheap belt off eBay once. Idea was to save a few bucks(of course), ended up 5 miles from work and 15 from home. I had less than 75 miles on the belt. I only use Gates now
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Post by millsc on Mar 19, 2013 21:36:02 GMT -5
got a gates powerlink premium belt on my tapout scoot it still looks new 1.5k spring and all looks like ill be getting another one for my roketa
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Post by spandi on Mar 19, 2013 22:03:54 GMT -5
Ain't that the way it works? Try and save a couple of bucks and end up paying for it twice. After a few bad experiences I now buy the best quality stuff I can Lay my hands on, and don't have to worry about it again.
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Post by justbuggin2 on Mar 19, 2013 23:29:37 GMT -5
at least you will save money at the gym
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Post by alleyoop on Mar 20, 2013 1:48:08 GMT -5
Justbuggin2, Are You talking about this place Alleyoop
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Post by wutzthedeal on Mar 20, 2013 2:28:21 GMT -5
Ain't that the way it works? Try and save a couple of bucks and end up paying for it twice. After a few bad experiences I now buy the best quality stuff I can Lay my hands on, and don't have to worry about it again. That's the absolute truth. It took me quite a while to learn--probably didn't really "get it," until I was 35 y/o or so--that buying the quality part/tool pays for itself two-fold (at least). While I would have applied that to my scoot and probably bought a Japanese bike, finances can limit quality. But when it comes to tools and parts, I try to get only the best because you come to a point in your life where you start to really see time as money--time spent walking, pushing your scoot... time re-repairing something because you skimped on the tool to fix it or the parts... headaches of returning items for refunds or warranty repairs... the list is endless. If I could give only one piece of practical living advice regarding shopping, I'd say always try to buy a quality, proven product, not just because it will be stable/last longer but because you save your time/trouble AND the thing a lot of people forget; you get peace of mind knowing that your part/tool//whatever is not likely to fail (you lose that peace of mind when you go for the discount off-brand). PS Sorry about the trouble, Mills. Another lesson learned (the hard way).
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Post by earlwb on Mar 20, 2013 7:41:25 GMT -5
Yeah some of those belts they sell are pretty poor in quality. Plus some sellers also push counterfeit fake brand belts too. It is difficult to filter through all the junk to find good ones.
One other thought is temperature. The 150cc size scooters tend to have really poor air circulation through the CVT drive housing. I gave up on using the pitiful foam filter insert as it clogged up really fast, like in a day or two. I simply left the grid screen in place but removed the little foam filter and that helped a lot as it allowed for air to circulate inside the CVT housing better. If the CVT belt overheats the belt breaks down and disintegrates on you. Some other guys went with a new competition racing CVT outer housing cover that had cutouts to help promote air circulation too. But one could likely do the same thing with patience, a drill and a dremel tool or use a milling machine.
When the Chinese first made the scooters, cruising speeds in China were typically 25 to 30mph, most of the time. So having a scooter go faster didn't help any due to the crowded roads and streets. But when they started selling them in the USA problems started occurring.
After having several belts go bad on my 150cc scooter. I opted to carry a spare and to also carry the tools to be able to change the belt out somewhere away from home. It actually came in handy one day too, when one of those crappy Kevlar belts disintegrated on me too.
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Post by millsc on Mar 20, 2013 8:47:39 GMT -5
I bought cheaper parts for my roketa it was a cheap project bike, looks like i'll have to put some money in i guess to make it reliable
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Post by rockynv on Mar 20, 2013 11:29:05 GMT -5
A cheap belt can vibrate a lot before it fails taking out the clutch, variator and gearcase input bearings. You can see muffler and tire hugger failures as collateral damages from a bargain belts vibrations before it fails.
I learned that lesson. Saved a few dollars on the belt and paid out for a new variator, clutch, gearcase bearings and another new belt. Also had to weld the muffler back together and buy a replacement rear fender/tire hugger as the original fell off on a State Road in 55 mph traffic.
John Maxwells "Law of the Price Tag" applies here. If you try and cheat up front you will eventually have to pay the full price down the line along with interest so you are usually better off paying the full price up front skipping all the interest which can end up getting pretty costly.
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Post by wooddogg on Mar 23, 2013 6:57:51 GMT -5
i could tell when my belt was close to snappin. ordered a premo gates, got lazy, didnt put it on...had to push it home...lesson learned, lol.
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Post by millsc on Mar 23, 2013 9:24:25 GMT -5
I put a new belt on the roketa and traded it for a cy50 t3 with 600 miles, needs a new rim which i can get, gonna put all quality parts on it this time around. 52mm scrappy kit all ready ordered
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