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Post by rexxk on Jun 25, 2014 15:27:34 GMT -5
name calling? ok. and on 2 other accounts also. .. hmmm well lets see here. you got by looking at his bike that the throttle was messed up with no clear directions on how to fix it. i bugged him until it was fixed. and fixed right. then i gave him directions on how to tune the bike. then he followed them while following and watching, he noticed an air leak. hMMMM.
then iasked him to fololow the directions originally gave while alley ooops gives him distractions about watching some electric run tachometer device, that isnt proving to be more reliable than his own bike. so. i gave him instructions to stop watching the tachometer and listen. and i told him how to tune it. he got the directions mixed up. thought wait until it warms up but then it dies.
my directions where when it warms up up the idle rpms with the idle rpm screw, then adjust the mixture. if it won't warm up. .. if its already stopped running. let the auto choke, auto enrichener, cool backdown. wait then start it up. then make your rpms even higher. when it starts. using the idle rpm screw. when it calms down, some. you know its warmed up.
and that tach, if its off. listen to that bike i poste dthe video of. your bike sounds like that at startup. his bike sounds like that, and hes saying thats how one SHOULD SOund. im thinkitg thats warmed up. Your bikes idles too low. its goign to be all screwed up. just get it to the point where you can attempt to adjust the mixture. tunethe bike. using the fuel or air mixture screw. Never said I was an expert on these bikes, knew what everythign was. just use that mixture screw when it warms up. set it to start up at around 1 1/2 to 1 3/4. raise the rpms. so when it calsm down, itll be at a higher rpms.
that tach might be off. his tach says 1500 your says around 3000 when it kills. HUMM mabye its doubled. maybe your under 1500 rpms maybe it should die. raise your rpms. use the idle rpms screw. go by sound.
lots of name calling in there oh wait thats jhust me quoting what alleyoop called me. and every ebay seller says japanese. too dont they?
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Post by rexxk on Jun 25, 2014 15:40:24 GMT -5
Hi Billie, Don't pay attention to him, no need to explain anything with him it will just turn into name calling and just get worse. I tried that with him under his previous 2 other IDs that he has signed with. Just notice what I posted and tried to explain why, But you see what he came back with nothing but garbage. what are you talking about? explained what? his bike ahnd how its broke? you said its what you think. ITS NOT YOUR BIKE. the tachs off. listen to that vdieo. thats my guess. when yourssays 3000 it sounds a little like his at 1500 showing. except his is more and yours is less. then yours dies. surprise. Try upping the idle higher. go by sound. try setting the mixture screw at 1 1/2 turns, upping idle starting it. then if it starts to warm up and dies. and doesnt stay going the idles too low wont keep running, you up the rpm screw and it dies. then. if it wont start back. let it cool off again. however long it takes, then try 3 1/2 trurns out on the mix screw. same thing start up. get idle up high. so when it warms up itll drop to a higher rpms. if it dies and wont stay going. if it starts to lower, and doesnt quit, try adjusting that screw. depending where you are. turn it in half a turn. if it goes lower rpms, turn it out back a half then another half a turn out. to 4 turns out. if its raising then and your screw is fuel, then yoru lean on the pilot jet. get a 38. if it turns in and raises the rpms, wait, aroudn 10 seconds, then turn it in 1/4 turn at a time. you wait 10 seconds between each turn. if it starts to die, or GET worse!, .. if it gets worse, turn it back. and go the other direction. out or in. leaner richer. whichever cause i dont know if your carbs, fuel or air screw. more than likely if anything youd be lean from a 35 pilot jet. you know they dont make pilot jets smaller for those carbs than a 30. and they go up to i think a 60 on them. if you can over go on one side or the other, wait until you smell gas, youll know which way is rich and if its fuel or air screw and if your rich or lean. alley can't tell nothing from what ive told him and he cant help you much on your bike.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 25, 2014 15:42:44 GMT -5
Dude, he isn' ripping me off, he is hooking me up. Sending me a bunch of stuff for basically what it would cost for shipping. I did try your directions rex, several times over. For the most part, I couldn't get to the point were I could adjust anything because the bike dies before it's fully warmed up. fully warmed up can tell you 2 things. auto choke/ enrichener, or maybe some other electrical thing. but if it always happens at the same time. from dead cold. same weather temperature and stuff. the choke is probably what it is. electrical ran things die quicker and stuff. auto choke isnt probably messed up. your jettings just off.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 25, 2014 15:43:14 GMT -5
and you got to try to adjust it. another carb cdi coil isnt going to fix that.
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Post by alleyoop on Jun 25, 2014 15:43:25 GMT -5
Best advice I can give you is You need to read the 1st page, 2nd page, 3rd page, 4th page etc.. ALL THAT WAS DONE AND a lot more. Alleyoop
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Post by jerseyboy on Jun 25, 2014 16:17:00 GMT -5
Hi Billie, Don't pay attention to him, no need to explain anything with him it will just turn into name calling and just get worse. I tried that with him under his previous 2 other IDs that he has signed with. Just notice what I posted and tried to explain why, But you see what he came back with nothing but garbage. what are you talking about? explained what? his bike ahnd how its broke? you said its what you think. ITS NOT YOUR BIKE. the tachs off. listen to that vdieo. thats my guess. when yourssays 3000 it sounds a little like his at 1500 showing. except his is more and yours is less. then yours dies. surprise. Try upping the idle higher. go by sound. try setting the mixture screw at 1 1/2 turns, upping idle starting it. then if it starts to warm up and dies. and doesnt stay going the idles too low wont keep running, you up the rpm screw and it dies. then. if it wont start back. let it cool off again. however long it takes, then try 3 1/2 trurns out on the mix screw. same thing start up. get idle up high. so when it warms up itll drop to a higher rpms. if it dies and wont stay going. if it starts to lower, and doesnt quit, try adjusting that screw. depending where you are. turn it in half a turn. if it goes lower rpms, turn it out back a half then another half a turn out. to 4 turns out. if its raising then and your screw is fuel, then yoru lean on the pilot jet. get a 38. if it turns in and raises the rpms, wait, aroudn 10 seconds, then turn it in 1/4 turn at a time. you wait 10 seconds between each turn. if it starts to die, or GET worse!, .. if it gets worse, turn it back. and go the other direction. out or in. leaner richer. whichever cause i dont know if your carbs, fuel or air screw. more than likely if anything youd be lean from a 35 pilot jet. you know they dont make pilot jets smaller for those carbs than a 30. and they go up to i think a 60 on them. if you can over go on one side or the other, wait until you smell gas, youll know which way is rich and if its fuel or air screw and if your rich or lean. alley can't tell nothing from what ive told him and he cant help you much on your bike. Dude,, I'm pretty knowledgeable when it comes to small motors or anything mechanical and usually help myself,,but Alley has gotten me out of alot of jams and also has taught me more than anybody on this forum,,I'm not kissing anybodies but when it comes to GY6 Alley knows his stuff so don't go bad mouthing him just because your butt is hurt..for only being here a few weeks you got pretty testy so soon..why not sit back and read for a while,,thats what i do when I get pi$$ed.
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Post by bille on Jun 25, 2014 19:11:10 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure I said this thread is on-hold until the new parts come in
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Post by alleyoop on Jun 25, 2014 19:56:42 GMT -5
While we are waiting lets all meet at this bar Alleyoop
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Post by jerseyboy on Jun 25, 2014 21:32:48 GMT -5
Im there dude...
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 26, 2014 21:18:01 GMT -5
Ah, just noticed in your sig and what you mentioned this b-a-carb you have a 32pumper no acv valve to help during de-cel not to run lean. Now I understand the high rpms yours runs at, those carbs will not idle low to much flow coming through and no way to tpne that down just like the 250s+ they will not idle low. Alleyoop Thanks , didn't even think of that . So it is running right . Good to know
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Post by rexxk on Jun 27, 2014 13:55:32 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure I said this thread is on-hold until the new parts come in your scooters already a new one
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 27, 2014 15:07:54 GMT -5
Ah, just noticed in your sig and what you mentioned this b-a-carb you have a 32pumper no acv valve to help during de-cel not to run lean. Now I understand the high rpms yours runs at, those carbs will not idle low to much flow coming through and no way to tpne that down just like the 250s+ they will not idle low. Alleyoop Thanks , didn't even think of that . So it is running right . Good to know I messed with the carb for hrs when I first put it on thinking it was gonna idle lower,lol .
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Post by bille on Jun 27, 2014 16:25:17 GMT -5
I put all the new parts on it, and it started right up. I haven't made any adjustments to the new carb at all, but the bike is idling at 1600-1700 right now, and purring like a kitten.
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Post by bille on Jun 27, 2014 16:28:48 GMT -5
check it out:
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Post by bille on Jun 27, 2014 16:57:40 GMT -5
idling at 1250 rpm, doesn't seem to be any issues with throttle. I'm going to start putting the trim back on and take it for a ride.
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