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Post by adamlol1112 on Jan 13, 2014 7:20:15 GMT -5
This might be a dumb question, but how do you get your scooter to the motorcycle safety course if you only have your permit. In PA, you're required to have a licensed motorycleist with you while operating if you have your permit. So, how am I supposed to transport my bike to the m.s.c. class if I'm not allowed to ride without supervision. In P.A. they law says that you may operate a motor-driven cycle (motor scooter) with a class C license if the bike is not over 50 cc's and the brake horse power does not exceed 5. So am I going to need to have a 50cc and my Class C, before I can get myself to the MSC? I'm already considering a 50cc to learn around my immediate area. I'll upgrade later. I'm very confused however.  |
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Post by 2wheelfun on Jan 13, 2014 8:35:36 GMT -5
Here most m/c safety course's offer their own bikes to use, usually 250 jap bikes. Is a class c a reg DL in PA? I'm afraid if you only have a class c permit then the law is clear and no gray area to it. I can't imagine a cop giving you a ticket though if you explained it to him and were up to snuff with your attitude and ins etc......................Don't be speeding.
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Post by buford1488 on Jan 13, 2014 11:20:59 GMT -5
i live in pa. if you have a reguler driver's licend you dont need to ride with some body. you ride your scoot to were you are taking the test.were im at they have a course were you can use there's. but if you aready have a car licend you just get your permit and be in by dark and were a helmet....
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Post by americanpsycho on Jan 13, 2014 11:58:38 GMT -5
Keep in under 30mph and keep your mouth shut and you'll stay out of trouble.
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Post by DaveC on Jan 13, 2014 14:20:00 GMT -5
Again, most all MSF courses provide bikes. (Yes, normally 250 Rebels)
You drive your car there.
You sit in class and pass the written test
You listen and perform the tactics they teach you on the riding course.
You drop the bike, you're automatically failed.
You pass the riding course
You get your diploma? (certificate of completion) and a patch.
You go to DMV and get the endorsement to your drivers Lic.
Then, you ride responsibly and safely, and watch out for the other guy.
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Post by PCBGY6 on Jan 13, 2014 14:50:07 GMT -5
Not all people want to ride a motorcycle though. You are not required to ride their bikes. You are allowed to bring your own bike or scooter if you like.
I suggest drive very safe or have a friend ride it there for you.
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Post by JerryScript on Jan 13, 2014 15:54:54 GMT -5
I promise you, if you post on your local craigslist (or similar local forum), you will find riders willing to accompany you on the ride to the course. The one thing I've learned over 30 years of riding, you become an automatic member of a fraternity when you ride on two wheels!
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Post by rockynv on Jan 13, 2014 22:44:49 GMT -5
A pickup or a van is a wonderfull thing for getting your bike there. Locally MSF provides a choice of a Honda or Suzuki 250 or a very small single passenger scooter.
A number of the riders when I took the course were there because they were caught riding in alone and had to now take the course to get their bikes out of impound.
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 13, 2014 23:53:28 GMT -5
Not all people want to ride a motorcycle though. You are not required to ride their bikes. You are allowed to bring your own bike or scooter if you like. Not with all MSFs. My beginner class, we had to use their Rebels. When I drove my scooter later on to show it to them, they were concerned one of their beginners was driving her bike to class. Go ahead and learn on their motorcycle. It won't kill you to use a clutch/shifter. If I could manage it (and on a bike that didn't like going into neutral), then everyone should be able to! And almost all the techniques you'll learn translate to the scooter, excluding feathering the clutch. Plus if you drop it, at least it's not your own bike. That can wait 'til you take the experienced riders' class (mine, five of the others dropped their bikes, and four of them had years of riding  ) >'Kat |
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Post by adamlol1112 on Jan 14, 2014 3:00:19 GMT -5
That'll probably be what'll end up happening. My only concern is that I'm only 5'5'' and have fairly short legs, I'm afraid I wont fit on their bikes. I'd much rather be on a bike I chose myself that fits me comfortably.
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Post by rockynv on Jan 14, 2014 5:18:51 GMT -5
Go over and check out the bikes before your class and ask an instructor if you can sit on one to see if you need to bring your own bike. A few minutes playing Goldylocks and you may find that they do have a bike that fits you and possibly even a small scooter.
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 14, 2014 7:01:45 GMT -5
adam, I'm 5'5" too, although I think my legs are probably average (31"). Seems to my memory their Rebel actually fit better than my Piggy does.
I second rocky's advice. See when they have class and go beforehand to sit on one of their bikes.
>'Kat
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Post by americanpsycho on Jan 14, 2014 10:36:50 GMT -5
You could always carry your scooter on your back and walk to the course.
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Post by DaveC on Jan 15, 2014 0:45:21 GMT -5
I think this is being far too anal ized
It really ain't that complicated
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 15, 2014 6:58:49 GMT -5
Dang, psycho, I can barely lift just one end on mine to shift it over. No way I can carry it on my back! And what if the class isn't very close? What if it's something like five miles away? Or even more? You're not psycho, you're the Hulk!  >'Kat |
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