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Post by danno on Jan 9, 2014 18:06:16 GMT -5
I'm going to go with Scootnwinn on this one. It seems to me there is a better chance of getting a good working bike off of Craigslist from someone who wants to sell their scoot because they either want to upgrade or decided they don't use it that much. Sinocard, what city do you live near? I often surf Craigslist just to see what's going on in the market. If i see anything, I can let you know.
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Post by Paladin on Jan 9, 2014 19:48:31 GMT -5
... Now that I think about it I really don't need to be able to go on the freeway. So what's a good cheap 150cc? If you can double the cash, a Lance PCH150 -- MSRP $2,199, 151cc so it is freeway legal in any State.
Otherwise, reliable and legal trumps make/model. Depending on where you are, a 149cc scooter is freeway legal. Freeway legal and capable does not mean comfortable. I am comfortable on the Freeways and Interstates on my LX150, 63 mph in still air on the level. I am comfortable going up the Grapevine with the semis doing 45-50 mph.
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 10, 2014 6:40:03 GMT -5
I agree that you should check out your area Craig's List ads. There's some good deals there from folks who got into something they decided wasn't their thing. Esp right now with winter docking so many scoots. "You know, I really never rode that thing very much, I might as well sell it and use the money on something else."
And Paladin's right about capable vs comfortable. My scoot supposedly can hit 70 mph. But I am NOT comfortable with just the thought of driving it on the highways with the semis doing 65-70++ mph. They pull my car when they barrel past. I shudder to think what would happen on my scoot.
>'Kat
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Post by americanpsycho on Jan 10, 2014 8:18:48 GMT -5
I am NOT comfortable with just the thought of driving it on the highways with the semis doing 65-70++ mph. They pull my car when they barrel past. I shudder to think what would happen on my scoot. >'Kat You could get sucked into the back end and ripped apart. Happened to my grandmother's nephew on his way back to Florida 22 years ago.
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Post by sym200 on Jan 10, 2014 10:01:29 GMT -5
I am NOT comfortable with just the thought of driving it on the highways with the semis doing 65-70++ mph. They pull my car when they barrel past. I shudder to think what would happen on my scoot. >'Kat You could get sucked into the back end and ripped apart. Happened to my grandmother's nephew on his way back to Florida 22 years ago. My new SYM topped out at 74mph on the Interstate. However it was at 4:00 in the morning during breakin (1 mile from exit to exit) just so I could let it know that it was possible to go fast. That will be the only time it will be on the Interstate. I wouldn't even ride a full dressed HOG on the interstate around here; there are just to many idiots in 4-wheels swerving in and out of traffic.
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Post by millsc on Jan 10, 2014 10:07:03 GMT -5
I have never took my scooter on the interstate 70 mph zone either and don't plan to, even if i had a 250cc id be too afraid to take the plastic light bike on the 70 mph interstate. i have rode on 55 zones where there's not much traffic or semi's but mainly i think scooters are for in town commutes. These things don't weigh enough to be passed by semi's and going that fast on a plastic machine for long travels for long periods of time seems dangerous at for me.
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Post by sym200 on Jan 10, 2014 10:14:36 GMT -5
My commute is about 17 miles each way on country roads riding 40-55 mph. Thoroughly enjoy the ride especially in the mornings when there's very little if any traffic. Stop signs are 1-3 miles apart so there is plenty of stop and go riding.
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Post by bandito2 on Jan 11, 2014 14:10:47 GMT -5
Used Honda PCX 125 scooters are starting to hover around the $2000 mark. But then so are Honda Reflex 250 scooters in decent shape. Not sure about the Yamaha Zuma 125, Kymco, Piaggio or much of any of the other brands of scoots since I don't usually keep an eye out for those like I do with the Honda and Yamaha bikes.
I have 4 Honda Reflex scooters. (in various stages of running order) They work fine around town and 2 up, freeway capable. (but just barely so IMO since passing power >70 mph is just not there) I have toured on my 2007 Reflex pulling a single wheel trailer 75 mph (GPS) from here in MI to AR and back (860+ miles each way) 700+ miles each way to Catskills of NY pulling the trailer and other trips. So it is very capable. Easy to work on and plenty of parts easily available if and when they may be needed.
Generally speaking, I would advise against Chinese bikes since many have ...... well, let's just say they often have checkered reps. Any bikes you do find interesting should be well researched before making a final purchase decision. Good luck with your search. Though I don't know that you will find much that meets your criteria at that price point.
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Post by spandi on Jan 11, 2014 14:30:49 GMT -5
It all depends upon the buyer., if you're good with tools and have a mechanical knack, a Chinese bike can give good service at relatively low cost. The trick is doing a pdi BEFORE riding around any distance. If on the other hand you wish to ride with a minimum of service work on your part then a bike such as Kymco, SYM, or a used brand named bike is what you'll need. x1scooters.com/pdi.html
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Post by ramblinman on Jan 11, 2014 20:37:32 GMT -5
for under $1,200 you're basically limited to a china scoot. you'll need at least a 150cc to ride two. be prepared to do basic maintenance and you should get plenty of miles out of a china scoot. if you don't want to spend your time wrenching every week or two then save up for a SYM, Aprilla, Kymco, Honda... this would be my choice if i had $4,000 to spend: or you can get something like this: a little less reliable but only $1,000 delivered. i have plans to purchase the Roketa within a month and then i'll be saving for the Sym.
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Post by cyborg on Jan 11, 2014 22:55:34 GMT -5
i personally can recommend to spend just a little more dough and get a well known brand,, i ordered a chinese crate scooter and the deal thankfully fell thru,,literally three minutes later from hanging up with the "order desk" i went on to CL and got a vespa for $1500 with crazy low mileage,,and just this past week i just missed another early 70's vespa for $300 (dammit) it was whole and not wrecked but it did need some work (which i don't mind doing),,,they are out there,,,you need to have the dough and jump when you see them but they are out there
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Post by JerryScript on Jan 12, 2014 0:30:13 GMT -5
I personally think the price difference is not worth it. I realize chinese scooters have suffered through years of poor quality, but the past couple of years there appears to be a vast improvement. My nephew and I both purchased new chinese scooters this year. I have done the upgrades you see in my signature below and all maintenance, his is stock and he has taken his into the dealer for scheduled maintenance to keep it under warranty. I have a Znen, he has a Rocketa, neither of us has had any problems in 2k miles so far. I realize that's not a lot of miles, but other than slightly dirty floorboards, both look brand new, all seams are still tight, nothing is wiggly or vibrating, solid construction! I'll be purchasing a 150cc this year, and it will definitely be a chinese scooter!
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Post by spandi on Jan 12, 2014 1:19:06 GMT -5
It all depends upon the buyer., if you're good with tools and have a mechanical knack, a Chinese bike can give good service at relatively low cost. The trick is doing a pdi BEFORE riding around any distance. If on the other hand you wish to ride with a minimum of service work on your part then a bike such as Kymco, SYM, or a used brand named bike (Japanese) is what you'll need. x1scooters.com/pdi.html
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Post by Jarlaxle on Jan 12, 2014 6:58:28 GMT -5
I rode motorcycles a few times, ever since, I've wanted some sort of 2 wheel vehicle scooters seem just right. I'm just looking for something to get me around town. So, recommend something for me What I need in a scooter: able to seat 2 durability. under 1200 I don't really care about the style honestly. I'm more worried about quality. Also looking for something from one of those websites, so I guess, recommend me a good online dealer where I could find whatever scooters you recommend as well! Thanks Used Japanese 250. A Honda Helix will meet all your requirements (as will a Honda CH250 Elite), thought $1200 for one is tough. The Q-Link Commuter 250 and the CF Moto Fashion 250 are clones (bolt-for-bolt...I think they bought the rights to it from Honda) of the Helix...they're Chinese, but the quality, while not quite up to Honda standards, seems to be much better than many China scoots. My Q-Link IS highway-capable...it will cruise comfortably at 65. Honestly...I have to admit I like the "snowmobile on LSD" styling.
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