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Post by pmatulew on Sept 22, 2013 17:41:06 GMT -5
Yup! there's the inner race! Bwahhahahaha!  One sad little ball all by it's lonesome!  I'm impressed in that I can honestly say I've never ever seen bearings completely fail like that. Or seen anyone (DPSO) completely ignore the noise that must have been making before the balls all decided to go their separate ways. Fair bet that all the bearings in the rear end are done and will need to be replaced. The DPSO must not have replaced the shipping oil with fresh gear oil. Pull the wheel. Separate the housing. Chase down all those balls and hope that the gear teeth are all still in good shape. Save the parts when you strip it down. Any local bearing supply place should be able to match the bearings by measuring the dimensions if you can't find an online package somewhere. --> www.partsforscooters.com/search-results?keywords=bearings |
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Post by sailracer on Sept 22, 2013 17:53:02 GMT -5
 I've never seen one do that either.Notice the blue color in the race? must've been about to erupt in flames What oil?? i see no evidence of oil
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Post by pmatulew on Sept 22, 2013 17:55:07 GMT -5
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Post by pmatulew on Sept 22, 2013 18:12:26 GMT -5
Back to a question from the original post. The big case with the belt in it doesn't have any lube. But, the small compartment in the back with the gears in it does, (or at least should). but it's only filled and inch or two at the bottom. So you may or may not see any through the hole where the clutch shaft was. 100ml is usually all you need.
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Post by alleyoop on Sept 22, 2013 20:45:24 GMT -5
Thank you for the pictures that showed that you are correct the wheel has to come off to get at the inside of the tranny from the right side of the CVT.
Alleyoop
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Post by gsragtop on Sept 23, 2013 19:27:13 GMT -5
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Post by alleyoop on Sept 23, 2013 19:59:54 GMT -5
Count the number of teeth on the one I labled this way if you want to put in taller gearing you know what was in there. Alleyoop I think its a 15/51 combo, but I may have missed counted.  |
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Post by SylvreKat on Sept 23, 2013 21:58:26 GMT -5
My question is, how many little ball-bearings are supposed to be in there, and where'd all the rest end up?
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Post by pmatulew on Sept 24, 2013 11:54:44 GMT -5
Was there any oil in there?  |
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Post by pmatulew on Sept 24, 2013 12:04:54 GMT -5
Buy or borrow "Blind Hole Bearing Puller" to remove those. Maybe rental at Autozone. Maybe local tool rental.
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Post by gsragtop on Sept 24, 2013 18:13:33 GMT -5
[replyingto=pmatulew]pmatulew[/replyingto]Great advice got one from advanced auto.. Pulled them right out... All but one, fortunately it was in good shape with no signs of metal shavings. I was able to order new bearings from my local napa..
HOWEVER they only had sealed bearings, can I use them or should I pop the seals off??
Thanks again for all of your guys help.
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Post by sailracer on Sept 24, 2013 18:20:11 GMT -5
Remove the seals.Take out as much of the grease as you can. Clean with wd40, and soak it with  weight oil before you put them in.Did you get the wheel off? you need to change that bearing too. ;D |
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Post by gsragtop on Sept 24, 2013 18:43:21 GMT -5
[replyingto=salracer]sailracer[/replyingto]No, but that bearing seems to be ok as well.. No crunching no noise.. I'm gonna get it back together and see what it does..
I figured I needed to unseal the bearings, thought they would get to hot without oil cooling them down..
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Post by scootnwinn on Sept 25, 2013 9:17:33 GMT -5
Why would a sealed bearing get too hot when its packed in grease. Leave it alone it's designed to be sealed don't change anything. You gear case doesn't get all that hot and I'm certain unsealing that could lead to an unhappy day...
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Post by sailracer on Sept 25, 2013 9:29:49 GMT -5
It Calls for unsealed bearings. Its contantly bathed in oil. sealed bearings are meant for "dusty environments.Beleive me, I've worked on hundreds of gearboxes of all types and sizes. ;D
While you are absolutely right, they are designed that way, they are not designed for this application. they are better in free air, or where they are not constantly oiled.
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weight oil before you put them in.Did you get the wheel off? you need to change that bearing too. ;D
