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Post by JerryScript on Sept 16, 2013 14:44:28 GMT -5
I'm going to install a BBK next weekend, and with it a straight-line air intake. Most scooters I've seen around here with a similar air intake mod have of course completely removed the stock air filter box since it's not needed. Why not use the stock air filter box as a tool box? You can attach tool holders with screws/clips/silicon and fit most of the tools needed quite easily. You can even use the stock air filter material as a cushion to prevent any rattling. Might be able to fit a spare belt, plug, and some hoses and wire as well, after all it's decently thick. I'll have to be careful about how much weight I put in there, perhaps add some metal strapping/brackets between the mounting bolts and screw in the tool holders to those. Here's a google image search showing several angles so you can see how much space we have available in various box configurations: www.google.com/search?q=50cc+scooter+stock+airbox&client=ubuntu&hs=zj0&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ylw3UqGQF4bNiwKSwYCwDA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1360&bih=678&dpr=1#channel=fs&q=50cc+scooter+stock+airfilter+box&tbm=ischPerhaps the easiest way to hold the tools in place would be to drill holes in the air filter box back and use zip ties, will definitely want to use the air filter material or other foam as a cushion to prevent rattling. I'll keep extra zip ties in there, so when I have a road side emergency, I can pull the tool I need by cutting the zip tie(s) holding it, and when finished use the extra zip ties to re-secure it. I might even create a holder and brackets for one of those emergency impact wrench kits on the exhaust side in the same area. That would give me everything necessary for emergency road side repairs, and keep my under-seat and rear storage spaces available for things other than tools. Has anyone else done a similar modification? |
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Post by JerryScript on Sept 16, 2013 15:09:49 GMT -5
OK, I went out to the garage to see what parts of my idea won't work. First, I doubt I'll be fitting a drive belt in there, but there is space to zip tie one along the frame inside the body plastics, so I can still have a spare for road side emergencies without taking up normal storage space. Second, there are only two lower mounting bolts for the air filter box, the rest are just airbox cover bolts. That's not going to be strong enough over the long term to hold the added weight of tools with vibrations and bumps. So I'm going to try using metal strapping with holes in it (some call it plumber's tape), wrapped around the frame with a piece of rubber padding, and bolted to one or two of the upper airbox cover bolts. That should give enough strength to hold it in place, and not affect the flexibility of the rear end like adding a true bracket could. Plumbers tape: www.google.com/search?q=plumbers+tape&client=ubuntu&hs=mdg&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=SmU3UrWtDbSGiQLb6YDICg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1360&bih=678&dpr=1Third, you need at least a screwdriver to get this emergency toolbox open. Mine has cross-tip screws. I am going to replace them with bolt head screws, and use a dremel to cut a flat tip groove into the heads. This way, even if I don't have a cross tip screwdriver when I break down, I can fabricate something that will function as a flat-tip to get those airbox cover screws out (I was a generator mechanic in the army, and my CO didn't take "we don't have the right tool" as an excuse when we where in the field!). |
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Post by sailracer on Sept 16, 2013 15:39:21 GMT -5
It's a good idea. You could rivet a small set of hinges on the underside and a box clip or latch on top. That's pretty resourceful.I use my airbox for what it is, but a lot of riders simply ditch them.You have a good idea to re-purpose it while keeping a "stock look".   |
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Post by JerryScript on Sept 16, 2013 16:38:38 GMT -5
Thanks! And excellent idea on the hinge and clips! I believe I'll have to do the hinge on top or side, since there's not much clearance between the air box cover and the CVT cover, but that's a much better idea than having to fabricate a flat tip on the side of the road, thanks! I like the idea of keeping the stock look and having a sleeper that will surprise some people!  |
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Post by PCBGY6 on Sept 16, 2013 19:12:24 GMT -5
Super idea you have. Thinking outside of the box like that is what this is all about. |
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Post by alleyoop on Sept 16, 2013 19:27:22 GMT -5
If your going to strap it down you can use Wing Nuts to make it easy to close and open. Alleyoop  |
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Post by JerryScript on Sept 16, 2013 21:15:50 GMT -5
Thanks allyoop, wing nuts are a great idea for easy opening while still remaining secure! I went ahead and threw some tools into the air filter box to see how they would fit, looks like plenty of space for pretty much every non-power tool necessary to work on our scooters. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 22:40:02 GMT -5
Sure its a good idea but but i think its one of those that wont do for the vast majority unless they are chock full everywhere else and cant squeeze that much into another space. If I really needed space for that sort of thing somewhere Id pop off the seat and use that huge empty space between the front of the motor and battery.
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Post by JerryScript on Sept 17, 2013 10:55:17 GMT -5
Sure its a good idea but but i think its one of those that wont do for the vast majority unless they are chock full everywhere else and cant squeeze that much into another space. If I really needed space for that sort of thing somewhere Id pop off the seat and use that huge empty space between the front of the motor and battery. But then you would need a screwdriver to remove the seat and get to the tools. This (evolved) idea allows you to twist a wing-nut or two, and you have easy access to your tools. I personally carry clothing in my underseat storage (windbreaker, sweat pants, rain suit). I don't want oily tools messing them up. And I don't always have my upper rear storage unit installed, so this gives me a place to keep the tools clean and neat and easily accessible. As you say, it's probably not for everyone, but it's easy, cheap, and a clean installation. |
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Post by Mainely Scooters on Nov 21, 2013 23:14:43 GMT -5
Interesting idea. However, saddle bags are cheap and removable. If you wanted to get elaborate you could just fabricate your own toolbox to fit into the empty space next to the tire, maybe a "mirror image" of the exhaust to balance the look.
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Post by JerryScript on Nov 24, 2013 0:04:50 GMT -5
Interesting idea. However, saddle bags are cheap and removable. If you wanted to get elaborate you could just fabricate your own toolbox to fit into the empty space next to the tire, maybe a "mirror image" of the exhaust to balance the look. Greg That is the plan for storing my 12v impact wrench in a mirror of the airbox placed over the exhaust, it won't be an exact mirror and it's not giving me dual exhaust appearance, but I hope it blends in well. That will free up my seat storage from all tools, and as you said give it a balanced look, as well well as give it a beefier appearance, right now there's a lot of empty space above my 10" wheel. I don't want saddle bags, my scooter is already back end heavy to look at due to it's design. |
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Post by rockinez on Mar 11, 2014 1:34:47 GMT -5
Can't use my seat storage. That is where I transport my 12 packs.....
I like the idea. I have one of the newer air boxes with the triangular filter. It has a bit more room than the old style boxes.
Very creative idea.
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Post by 111 on Sept 10, 2014 11:10:15 GMT -5
yeah that's way cool. I just upgraded to cone filter and removed air box on a friends scoot. he is gonna be bummed when i tell him we just threw away a perfect "tool" compartment.
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Post by rockynv on Sept 11, 2014 0:36:03 GMT -5
I ride in the rain and kept the stock airbox and port tuning. Most of us with the Quasar Engines got tired of the intake noise, wet weather issues and change in the torque curve so the stock tuned port air boxes went back in on the all-weather and touring bikes. My preference is to save the cone filters for fair weather race bikes.
A pvc pipe with a regular cap on one end and a screw cap on the other also make a nice tool/utility holder. Plumbers use them all the time. Have a friend who made up two out of large diameter drainage pipes that he mounted on each side of the bike and they had room for a tent, camp chair, sleeping bags and his tools. Looked like the Starship Enterprise going down the road but..... He toured the US on a 200cc setup that way and made it all the way from Tampa Florida to the Norther most Point of the Alaskan/Canadian Highway and back. Even outfitted the bike with a auxiliary tube style military fuel tank to double his range.
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