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Post by IndyDakota on Aug 29, 2013 11:10:10 GMT -5
Hi guys and gals,
I'm in the process of selling my 50 and am looking to upgrade.
My list of 'must-haves' is short, it has to have large diameter wheels.
My first scoot had small wheels. My current one has large wheels. I much prefer the feel and control of larger wheels.
What I am looking for is something that will haul my 220lb butt up hills with little lag and get me out of trouble.
My local dealer has a 2011 Sportcity 125 on for (blowout) $1999.
Would a 125 be enough to get my 220lb butt up the hills or should I be looking at 150-200cc+?
It is mainly for work (3.5/km each way) and the odd weekend trip downtown. No highway driving, long trips or passengers.
My budget is $2000. Could be stretched to *$2500.
*depending on the wife.
There are only a few dealers on the island and one of them (sym/kymco) just went 'online only', the other doesn't have a great selection (bunch of 50's) in the showroom.
Not much choice around here.
Another question. I am looking at used bikes but how do I tell what CC some of them are? Do I take their word for it? Some of the bikes don't state CC's on the side.
Should I be pulling panels off to verify CC? How do you tell?
Thanks,
Ken
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 12:19:04 GMT -5
Title will say what size motor it came with. Most people wont lie about that. Good luck anyway trying to pass off a 50 as a 150! or 250! The test ride will tell quickly.
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Post by PCBGY6 on Aug 29, 2013 12:19:24 GMT -5
Engine code will be on the (more then likely) on the engine block on the left side front. If your looking at buying a used one get the make and model number from the person selling and research what engine it should have. When you get there you can see if the code matches. If you have net access on your phone you can type in the engine code on the spot and it will tell you how many cc's the scooter is.
As far as size I would go with a 150cc if you can find one just to have that little extra power.
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Post by domindart on Aug 29, 2013 12:23:45 GMT -5
I would go with at least 150 also. I weigh 210 and it works for me, but anything less may struggle sometimes (o)
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Post by PCBGY6 on Aug 29, 2013 12:30:10 GMT -5
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Post by IndyDakota on Aug 29, 2013 12:55:37 GMT -5
The title... of course. I'm such an idiot. ;X Thanks.
Anyway, so what I'm hearing is I shouldn't be sitting on anything less than 150.
Thanks
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Post by prodigit on Aug 29, 2013 14:11:46 GMT -5
I'm 160, and on level ground need a 75-110cc minimum to travel around normally.
It all depends on how the bike is geared, and how steep the hills are. A 125cc should be able to get you uphill at about 40MPH (if the hills are as steep as bridges). However riding 3 miles uphill is more than likely gonna cause a lot of wear on the engine.
My TaoTao EVO150 runs just fine uphill, and actually has too much torque for me. It might be right for you. I also would suggest a 150. Although Japanese 125cc's have about the same performance as chinese 150's.
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Post by PCBGY6 on Aug 29, 2013 15:26:58 GMT -5
I'm 250 pounds and ride a 50cc that does 32 mph and a 50 with a 50mm bbk. 38-39 mph. They are about 4 mph faster when my son rides them because he is 170 pounds. I'm lucky though because the rode I ride on here at the beach only has a 35 mph limit and you can't even go that fast half the time because of traffic.
If i did ride anywhere else I would have to have a 150.
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Post by IndyDakota on Aug 29, 2013 15:57:03 GMT -5
Re: Prodigit, 40MPH! That's great and probably all I need around here. Everywhere I drive around here is 50km/30mi speed limit anyways. Most of the hills around here are medium grade, where I ride anyways. I'm just sick and tired of having to pre-plan all my routes before I leave the house because of the steep or long hills. Oh, and who can forget about the big trucks who try and intimidate me. Do you know if the SportCity is Japanese or Chinese? Is there a common list as to who builds Japanese and Chinese scoots? It sounds like Chinese is the way to go no? I don't mind buckling down to do my own research but if there is a list out there, great. I'm all for more bang for the buck! Re: PCB_GY6, the first owner (I'm the second owner) of this scooter (scarabeo 50), had different size rollers put in the scooter. He was an older fellow and couldn't remember size/type/etc. I don't know either, (relative noob to two wheels) I get about 70km on flat, medium hills, 35-40km and about 20km on steep hills. I'm running WOT  % of the time. |
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Post by PCBGY6 on Aug 29, 2013 16:42:12 GMT -5
If you are the slightest bit mechanical you could just add a BBK and gears for about $100 and get the speeds your looking for.
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Post by IndyDakota on Aug 29, 2013 17:40:49 GMT -5
I'm mechanically inclined and I have given thought to a BBK but the problem is, finding information on this particular bike is a struggle at best.
It's not very popular bike. I would rather just sell it and get something a little more mainstream so I can find info, easily get parts and (learn to) do the work.
I've been to the Aprilia forums but getting information on this bike is like pulling teeth so I don't bother.
The dealership who imported the bike for the original owner doesn't seem to want anything to do with it. I've been told my two different employees on separate occasions that I need to do all the research on what is needed and they'll do the work. Excuse me but you are the pro, you tell me what works and doesn't work.
I find that really, really odd.
As previously stated, options here on the island are limited. I may need to make a trip over to Vancouver where both new and used seem to be a bit cheaper.
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Post by SylvreKat on Aug 29, 2013 21:13:51 GMT -5
I second the trip. I would most definitely NOT buy from that miserable excuse of a retail store. Sounds like the customer isn't just second to the dollar, you're not even on the consideration at all. Sorry, but really crappy attitude.
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Post by IndyDakota on Aug 29, 2013 23:24:47 GMT -5
Exactly. That's what happens when you're the only scooter dealer in town. I just spotted a used 2013 PCX150 for $3400. Makes me cry that I can't afford it. Looks to be right up my alley.  Oh well, the show must go on. Ken |
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Post by rockynv on Aug 30, 2013 4:33:31 GMT -5
The Aprilia Sport City 125 has more horsepower (11hp) and torque than a GY6 150. Aprilia rates it for  kph (56 mph) and their ratings are usually conservative compared to the other brands. For example my Sport City 250 is rated at 70 mph but has seen the upper 's on flat ground and pulls my 245 lbs up steep grades at 70 mph. aprilia-canada.ca/en-CA/Model/34783/SPORTCITY+50+-+125/Overview.aspx |
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Post by tarkus on Aug 30, 2013 4:40:31 GMT -5
I second the trip. I would most definitely NOT buy from that miserable excuse of a retail store. Sounds like the customer isn't just second to the dollar, you're not even on the consideration at all. Sorry, but really crappy attitude. >'Kat I agree Kat. They decided to go online only for a reason. Ill bet part of that reason is poor customer service at the B&M store. If you can't deal with customers face to face I'd hate to be on the wrong end of a Internet only deal with them. Just speculating..... Buy where they are happy to see you. |
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kph (56 mph) and their ratings are usually conservative compared to the other brands. For example my Sport City 250 is rated at 70 mph but has seen the upper 