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Post by teatimecrumpet on Aug 13, 2013 22:04:36 GMT -5
Hi, I live in Cambridge, MA. I've decided to buy a taotao CY50 just based on cost. Would take a ruckus but at $3k I find myself in motorcycle territory at that pricepoint. I found this: www.powersportsmax.com/product_info.php/cPath/38_93/products_id/14682and want to pull the trigger. But they get bad reviews. Anyone know of a reputable website to get this? also don't like that they don't specifically say GY6 motor. Also, can anyone redirect me to mods for the CY50? I'm about 200lbs and would commute to work if I feel safe on it. Or rather safe enough. Just local roads at 30mph but there's a pretty steep hill right before I hit my office. I'm in for dropping another $200 on mods. if anyone can point me to threads on the taotao CY50 specific mods I'd be grateful. Thanks!
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Post by millsc on Aug 13, 2013 22:05:15 GMT -5
get one from provenpowersports.com they are awesome
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Post by teatimecrumpet on Aug 13, 2013 22:05:50 GMT -5
Sheesh that was FAST!
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Post by millsc on Aug 13, 2013 22:07:41 GMT -5
get it there you won't be sorry bought two there william there is awesome
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Post by millsc on Aug 13, 2013 22:14:23 GMT -5
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Post by teatimecrumpet on Aug 13, 2013 22:21:12 GMT -5
I'm 5'9"... I just didn't like the look of the ATM thought it looked too pizza delivery boyish but that's just my view.
But would go that route if the CY can't be modded.
Does anyone know if there's a diff between the CY50 and the "Venus"?
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Post by millsc on Aug 13, 2013 22:22:49 GMT -5
the plastics on the retro style you want is a pain to remove, go with the t3, cy50a, thunder or gt5
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Post by millsc on Aug 13, 2013 22:29:15 GMT -5
i do scooter repair i have put big bore kits and mods on all the tao brands the retro style are the worst, the plastic are irritating got to take off the floor board and a bunch of other plastics to mod them. The easiest to mod is the cy50a, thunder, gt5 and the atm. Been there done this
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Post by teatimecrumpet on Aug 13, 2013 22:31:29 GMT -5
thanks millsc maybe I should just call you! lol
Aside from the hassle in removing the plastics could I sill mod the cy50? I mean I don't mind a little work unless you mean "pain" as in " you will most likely break your scooter".
and as far as your other suggestions are they all the same except for body/look?
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Post by teatimecrumpet on Aug 13, 2013 22:32:16 GMT -5
haha beat me to my post.
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Post by millsc on Aug 13, 2013 22:33:45 GMT -5
the retro mods just like the rest of them but alot of extra work removing plastics, the plastics break easy. If your up for the task go for it if you like the retro style.
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Post by skuttadawg on Aug 13, 2013 23:36:00 GMT -5
When it comes to engine parts brands and models often mean nothing as the 50s have a 139QMB engine and many share the same body types as other brands . If you look here you will see the most common types of bodies used www.scrappydogscooters.com/CHASSIS_PARTS.html . My Jonway Magnum has a handsome boy body like the Peace VIPs have and it has an access panel in the front as well as under the seat like most do . I can get to mos t things without having to remove any panels , where some are a pain to get to the carb as mine is exposed rather than covered . You can also remove the entire seat bucket with 4 nuts and a large screw that hold it on . I did remove the entire body as a single piece when I put on a BBK where some the panels are in pieces and not so easy to line up when putting back on . The scooters with 10 inch wheels do not handle that good at top speed and feel sketchy to me like my TaoTao ATma . I am too tall ( 6ft4 ) and had to hunch over and not comfortable . Scooters with larger wheels have a larger wheel base ( called longcase if 12 or larger as 10s are shortcase ) . I really love how my scooter with 13s rides , handles and I feel safe . My other scooter an Echarm has taller 16 wheels but not wide ( doughnuts ) like my 13s are . The handsome boy body also has two headlights that both burn at the same time , where some dual head lights one is for hi and the other low , and many only have a single headlight like a sunny boy body . Since you want to hot rod a 4T 50 , you can buy a BBK , a power kit or evenbolt on an 80+cc crate engine with CVT like here www.scrappydogscooters.com/139QMB_50cc_Performance.html If you want a 50cc toy to mod I would get a 2T ( 2 stroke ) with a Minarelli also called JOG engine type as stock they will outrun many modded 4T 50s and with a BBK , pipe and carb tuned I have smoked all 4T 50 hot rods and 2 GY6 150cc scooters . 2T have less parts to service or break , like valves to adjust or have to change oil . A 2T only uses fresh oil from the oil tank or premix instead of reusing in the crankcase and having to change it out . 2T can rev higher , more so with a BBK and performance pipe so they perform much better . Very easy to rebuild since no cam chain or valves to be bothered with . 2Ts are almost all gone as EPA has prevented any more to be imported except an Aprilia SR50 which costs 2 to 4 times more than most China scooters . 2T parts are easy to get and many high end places to get them as many race them on tracks as well as the streets . Those 2Ts with a Geely engine as well as the stand up gopeds are chaindriven instead of having a CVT which is like having " gears " so they are slooooow . With a CVT you can change out the variator weights and springs in order to tune it as desired
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Post by scootnwinn on Aug 13, 2013 23:39:21 GMT -5
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Post by teatimecrumpet on Aug 14, 2013 0:08:58 GMT -5
skuttadawg: was looking at a two stroke but didn't know if I could trust powersportsmax
scootnwinn: I guess I didn't look hard enough. But I'm hesitant to get an older scooter because I don't know how they were treated. and really don't know much about fixing scooters/autos or inspecting them on pick up.
I guess I could try to haggle down this one to a grand...http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/mcy/3997228186.html
but I guess my logic is if it's new then I can replace parts and add mods and still be under a grand. Whereas with one of the above I'd be well over 1k and I could be in a worse spot out of the box. But I guess how bad can bad get with a used vespa? Like worse case scenario would I have to put in a thousand to get it running?
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Post by skuttadawg on Aug 14, 2013 0:17:27 GMT -5
Have you ever ridden a scooter or a motorcycle before ? If not then I strongly suggest you see if you can get to try a few out in order to be sure you want one . China scooters are NOT anywhere close to being as durable as a Honda , Suzuki or Italian scooter , but they cost much less . ALL scooters will need wrenching to keep them going . The more you mod for speed the faster parts wear out and break . A modded 50 can only do so much even with tons of mods . You may opt to get a decent 150 so that you only need to change out the shipping oil and gear lube with any automotive 10w40 and GL5 and just put good gas in it . Here is few more 50cc scoots with a couple of 2Ts www.powerrideoutlet.com/scooters-mopeds/49cc-50cc-scooters-mopeds.htmlIf you can afford a brand name like Honda , Aprilia , Vespa , or Kymco this may be a better option since they are of higher quality and Kymco has a 2 year warranty where some only 30 days to 6 months with limitations
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