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Post by jimboeau on Aug 10, 2013 18:12:36 GMT -5
Don't know for sure, but how many Josh's (in California) are scooter mechanics? LOL
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Post by spandi on Aug 10, 2013 18:17:21 GMT -5
Power Rider Outlet is only 24 miles from Superior anyways.
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Post by jimboeau on Aug 11, 2013 18:34:31 GMT -5
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Post by jethro9 on May 20, 2014 23:08:50 GMT -5
I got one from powerrideoutlet a few weeks ago, ordered a roketa mc122-250, it was labeled a Roar250 39c when I got it. Had some starting issues, but it seems much better now. I only have 300 miles on it but seems run very well. a coolant hose was loose and couldn't get much help from dealer as to how to access radiator (my 1st scooter). I'm happy with it so far. the engine is parallel to the ground, not upright. I don't know for sure what that means, but that is for sure.
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Post by spandi on May 20, 2014 23:40:55 GMT -5
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Post by oldchopperguy on May 21, 2014 1:52:09 GMT -5
I recently made the move to a 250 also, for the same reasons as yourself. After riding my Chinese 150 for six years, and speaking with numerous riders of 250 and larger scooters, I finally opted to go with a USED Taiwanese Kymco. I did this for two reasons...
1: The build-quality seemed to be MUCH more "car-like" with heavy-duty parts, providing an excellent reputation for longevity and durability, and 2: I wanted a true FLAT-FLOOR step-through like my old 150. This is due to arthritis making it hard to climb over any "hump" AND this style of 250 has a slightly smaller size/wheelbase than the longer touring scoots from Honda, Yamaha, Suziki, etc. which makes the shorties more nimble in traffic.
I went with a VERY well-used Kymco Grandvista 250cc... A 2007 with 14,000 miles on her clock. So far "Minnie Mouse" as I call her, has been a JOY to ride, and everything is in perfect working order.
Paying $2,500 out the door, including TT&L and all worn items (belt, rollers, muffler/headpipe, tires oil, coolant, etc.) freshly replaced, I still had to think long and hard before spending more for a well-worn Taiwanese ride than for a new Chinese 250. However, to my mind it still seemed to be best way to go, not being able to afford $4 or $5-thousand dollars for a new one. In a week, I test-rode EVERYTHING used, from Taiwan, Japan AND Italy. All were fine, and similarly-priced, from around $1,900 to $3,000. After getting the "feel" for the SHORTER flat-floor scoots from Kymco and Vespa, I did prefer their handling to the longer versions from Japan. Just me, but I like "nimble" and still able to hit 65-70 mph in "Lazy Boy Recliner" comfort, which the old gal will DEFINITELY do all day long.
I realize new Chinese scoots are much better than they were years ago, and certainly more affordable than new 250cc offerings from other makers, but please DO try riding EVERYTHING including USED scooters, before you buy. You may be amazed at the differences in performance, and handling from one to another... ESPECIALLY between the long and short wheelbase models. It could change your mind about what you decide to spend your hard-earned money on.
Just for the record, my old Kymco was used for six years, PLENTY HARD, for 2-up highway touring with luggage, and was traded-in on a new 2014 Kymco 300cc 4-valve, fuel-injected flat-floor, step-through model. The old Grandvista is STILL tight and smooth, feeling almost like new after six years of serious wear and tear... I bought her from MOXIE SCOOTERS here in the Dallas/Fort Worth, TX area. Moxie is a FABULOUS dealer to work with.
The Grandvista looks and feels much like a Chinese 150 in tight traffic, and in-town riding. But feels much like a mid-size-to-large motorcycle on the highway. It's no crotch-rocket, but will get with it RIGHT NOW, accelerating well with aggressive traffic, and tops out just over 75 actual mph. It will cruise easily at 65 mph, has BRAKES like a 747, and averages 80- mpg gas-consumption in town. Very good for my general use as a "family car"... LOL!
Hope my experience may be of help,
Sincerely,
Leo in Texas
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Post by jethro9 on Jun 24, 2014 19:53:49 GMT -5
I have the roar, 2014' mine has a horizontal engine. I guess I'm happy with it. only have 500 mi on it does seem to have plenty of power, not very happy with powerrideoutlet though. they don't seem to give a crap about helping with things once you get the scooter.
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Post by spandi on Jun 24, 2014 22:10:01 GMT -5
I have the roar, 2014' mine has a horizontal engine. I guess I'm happy with it. only have 500 mi on it does seem to have plenty of power, not very happy with powerrideoutlet though. they don't seem to give a crap about helping with things once you get the scooter.
As I've stated many times before, with most dealers of the Chinese product, once they have your cash if you wish to see your warranty and service department look in the mirror.
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Post by rockynv on Jun 24, 2014 22:55:29 GMT -5
I have the roar, 2014' mine has a horizontal engine. I guess I'm happy with it. only have 500 mi on it does seem to have plenty of power, not very happy with powerrideoutlet though. they don't seem to give a crap about helping with things once you get the scooter.
As I've stated many times before, with most dealers of the Chinese product, once they have your cash if you wish to see your warranty and service department look in the mirror. Things are getting better here in Tampa as mainstream dealerships are no longer turning away Chinese Scooters when they come in for service and some will take them in trade with a few now selling/servicing the better Chinese brands. The biggest problem they have is when to tell the owner of a Chinese scooter that is now out of warranty that while they can get parts and fix it that the labor costs will not make it worth while for the customer. Parts for Scooters is a local business and makes getting service easier since parts are locally available for same day pickup.
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Post by spandi on Jun 24, 2014 23:39:11 GMT -5
Well if the Chinese wish to up their game, they're going to have to take a hard learned lesson from the Japanese playbook (something that is slowly underway regardless) in terms of after sales servicing. But it will probably mean the phasing out of "cheap" Chinese scooters as they go for more mainstream respectability.
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