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Post by rapidvagabond on Jun 20, 2013 22:18:41 GMT -5
Hello everyone, I am new to this forum. I have been browsing around for a while now and now I am in need of help. I am no mechanic, by any means, but I am not incompetent to read instructions but being that I don't know anyone that knows about engines and all that, I am getting irritated. First off, I installed the 100cc bbk, or whatever it really is, 82, 83, whatever onto my 50cc Taotao, alongside with a new racing cdi, high flow air filter and spark plug. It took me once, twice and even that third attempt before I got a quality bbk. Now it runs! I get a top speed of around 45mph to 50mph, not reading in kph. Read it with a gps speedometer on my phone. It handles nice, and I plan to upgrade more as time goes by until all of the Chinese crap parts are gone, leaving Japanese, Taiwanese and American parts. My issues is that everyday, I get on it, start it up and go for a ride, and after about ten miles, or less, I pull into my driveway, turn it off and it won't start again until it cools down. Maybe 5 to 10 minutes. It really sucks when I make it to the gas station and have to wait after refueling. I thought I had a cracked air hose, nope. Maybe it was dead battery? Nah. After removing the stock airbox, I was left with an air hose open from the valve cover, so I put the air box back on and reconnected it. Still the same. I still have the stock carb on it and I thought maybe that was it, as it hasn't been re jetted yet, nor have I installed a new performance variator or installed the 5 gram roller weights that came with the kit cause I don't have an impact wrench. As I said, I'm gonna get it all going, just takes cash that I don't have at the moment. Any ideas on what might be causing it to not start back up? I understand it is a scooter so please don't remind me. I'm not rich, and I deal with what I have. Thanks in advance. Oh yeah, timing is correct, gaps are correct. And I'm sorry if this is not the right place. I read forums, rarely do I start threads outside of facebook.
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Post by ramblinman on Jun 20, 2013 22:28:57 GMT -5
from what i have read about bbk's and high flow air filters, you need to rejet a.s.a.p. before you burn up your piston.
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Post by rapidvagabond on Jun 21, 2013 0:52:44 GMT -5
So maybe the lean gas is overheating the engine? I thought that might be it since it starts back after it cools down. Thanks for the reply.
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Post by prodigit on Jun 21, 2013 1:15:29 GMT -5
yeah, a BBK requires rejetting to a richer jet size, as well as when you put a performance exhaust on it! Both require you to rejet, and both need a larger jet size.
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Post by millsc on Jun 21, 2013 8:42:47 GMT -5
Rejet or you'll be buying another kit the kit should of came with the jet dremel the flat screws out of the bottom of the carb get new ones from the hardware store for like 30 cents a piece
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Post by rapidvagabond on Jun 21, 2013 14:58:39 GMT -5
Alright! I bought my new jets, and I'm excited. Now, another question. Since I have a second carb sitting around, which is unfortunately, another stock, how do I get the fuel bowl off without stripping the screws. Does it have locking screws or washers? If so, how do I remove them? Thanks for the help, guys.
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Post by ramblinman on Jun 21, 2013 15:15:46 GMT -5
Alright! I bought my new jets, and I'm excited. Now, another question. Since I have a second carb sitting around, which is unfortunately, another stock, how do I get the fuel bowl off without stripping the screws. Does it have locking screws or washers? If so, how do I remove them? Thanks for the help, guys. only trick i know with tight screws is to use locking vice grips. attach to your screw driver to give more leverage. although it is still possible to strip them so use your body weight to keep the screw driver in place. hope that helps.
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Post by rapidvagabond on Jun 21, 2013 17:22:13 GMT -5
Thanks, I got it off. Now I just wait for the parts.
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Post by rapidvagabond on Jun 30, 2013 20:41:08 GMT -5
Alright guys, help me out. So,I got the jets, a #38 main and a #78 pilot. Installed them onto my carb and reinstalled it. Now, it backfires quite a bit. The idle speed is about 1 full turn below clutch engaging a causing the rear tire to spin. Check me if I'm wrong, here. The air/fuel mixture screw is 2 and 1/2 turns out. It'll start, but I have to keep gassing sometimes, even after the engines warms up. Sometimes, after a longer stretch, when I come to a stop, it dies. I noticed that the hose that goes to the diaphragm from the valve cover breather, or whatever it is, has a lid that pops off after revving it or riding for a while. When the engine is cold, it won't start unless I pull it off. I thought that I'd remove the whole thing, plug the outlet hole and plug the port at the intake, but the once it starts, it dies right off. I put it back on, and it started back. The power in the engine just pops that lid right off. What could be the problem here? Is there a specific way to install the jets? I also think that my starter bendix is going out. Sometimes the gear box locks up like a dead battery but the battery reads 13.17 volts. I'm confused. If I plug it up to a charger, it cranks. So, could the battery be bad or the charging system. I think it's the bendix. Any ideas? This crappy Chinese scoot will be all new parts eventually. I wish I had the cash for a new scooter, but I'm grateful for what I have. It's better than walking.
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Post by skuttadawg on Jun 30, 2013 21:24:07 GMT -5
78 is small as I used a main jet with a 50mm BBK . Check the valves as they may be too tight . When they are too tight it may prevent starting and if tight but starts and stalls when it warms up is also a sign they need to be adjusted . Sounds like your having a lean misfire with a 78
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Post by rapidvagabond on Jun 30, 2013 22:32:48 GMT -5
Sorry, I was wrong. Pilot is a #38, and main is a # . I'll definitely check the valve adjustments. I just had to but a new rocker assembly because the stock shattered at a mounting point because I overtightened it. Makes sense. Is an good enough, or should I think about getting the ? I hear it's a guzzler? True? Not that it really matters, I drove a '78 Ford Club Chateau E350 with a 460 and a 4 barrel Holley. Anything is gas efficient at this point.
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Post by jerseyboy on Jun 30, 2013 22:39:35 GMT -5
Backfire,,your lean and mean,,be carfull!
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