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Post by Paladin on May 31, 2013 18:28:20 GMT -5
In some countries it is considered a capital crime which carries a death penalty to fail to render aid.... I would be surprised that any country has such a law. If you know of one, I would like to see the actual law. So I would know what countries to avoid. |
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Post by SylvreKat on May 31, 2013 18:49:08 GMT -5
Aw, garwsh Dave. I'm blushing.  Thank you, hon'. I agree that it looks like the driver that caused her accident stopped on ahead. But I just cannot understand the second one, stopped to avoid being involved in all that, then didn't stay stopped to offer any sort of help at all. Oh sure, you can always assume "someone else" will stop and help/witness/call for help. Sadly, too many folks assume that, and so too often no one else stops to help. The lady who almost rolled her car, after she pulled over to the shoulder not one other driver pulled over to help. That's why I did. I know if I had fishtailed, spun, fishtailed, spun 180, almost rolled, finally managed to stop, I sure would want somebody there comforting and reassuring me and also making sure I'm good to continue driving on. I mean, it scared the snot out of me just seeing it. It was a couple years ago now, and I'm feeling it all over again thinking about it. I dunno, psycho. I can't just pretend someone else will stop and go on my way. Guess I'm not wired that way. No offense, but I think I prefer my wiring. >'Kat |
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Post by SylvreKat on May 31, 2013 18:56:17 GMT -5
And so writing, I'm reminded of a little story my old college advisor had on her board. Something like this--
There once was an important job to do.
Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.
Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did.
So Everybody blamed Somebody because Anybody could've done what Nobody did.
I think there was more to it, but I hope it makes its point anyways.
>'Kat, never willing to leave it for Nobody to do
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Post by dragonsparks on May 31, 2013 19:08:08 GMT -5
 Rock on Kat  Dave |
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Post by prodigit on May 31, 2013 19:15:57 GMT -5
And so writing, I'm reminded of a little story my old college advisor had on her board. Something like this-- There once was an important job to do. Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it. Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did. So Everybody blamed Somebody because Anybody could've done what Nobody did. I think there was more to it, but I hope it makes its point anyways. >'Kat, never willing to leave it for Nobody to do Well, at least 'nobody' did the job, so it got done ? (I'm a nobody) |
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Post by CopperDeer on May 31, 2013 21:56:04 GMT -5
[replyingto=dragonsparks]dragonsparks[/replyingto]I was very fortunate when i got hit on my motorcycle that the closest witness stopped and waited for police to give a statement. Otherwise i may not have faired so well with her insurance company and could have been out thousands. However when i see an accident if there are people closer or already stopping it makes no sense to stop and potentially cause more confusion and congestion for first responders
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Post by SylvreKat on May 31, 2013 22:22:59 GMT -5
Deer, you're right. If there ARE others stopping, and you didn't have as good a view, then maybe give someone there your name and number in case they need more witnesses, and continue on your way.
That's what we did for the construction guy. Of course, we were right next to him when the jerk tried to run him over. And he was doing his job, keeping traffic stopped while the asphalt paver roller truck was going by. Jerk didn't want to wait, didn't want to let roller get back off the road. And really tried to run over the worker. Worker shattered jerk's windshield with his rake. Jerk flew out of his car, cussing out. Mom sat there going, "Come on, take a swing. Just one swing." My Mom can be naughty, sometimes. Once the roller was past, she gave the worker her name and phone number in case he needed a witness. And we went our way. And cop called us later and took our statements.
See? It's that easy. Took maybe an extra 30 seconds out of our going to Oak Park Mall. And we got to feel good about helping the worker who had done nothing wrong, and maybe stopping the jerk from hurting someone else in a "next time".
You know, I keep thinking of that poor girl on the scoot. I wise they'd have filmed her getting up, or even the responders putting her in an ambulance and she giving a weak thumbs up, or anything to show she was going to come out okay in the end.
>'Kat, liking the purple and pink
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Post by kingkaymo on Jun 1, 2013 2:52:26 GMT -5
that vid was poor driving all around. she was hogging the center of the lane in whats obviously one of those countries that has a crapload of 2 wheel traffic. the guy passing was OBVIOUSLY too big to be passing folks like that. if she didnt see him coming, then she should have been paying more attention thats why these things have mirrors.
and id be afraid to stop in a place like that, simply bc thats the sort of place where people DONT stop for things like that so if you did stop, youd probably be run over as well....
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Post by prodigit on Jun 1, 2013 3:48:16 GMT -5
still, regardless of who's at fault, stop when an accident happens.
A scootard on south beach once hit a red light and I was going through the green.
As I saw him, crossing the intersection, I slammed the brakes, and the guy (in flipflops) threw himself off the bike.
Nothing happened but a damaged scoot, but I still stopped to see if he was ok. He was 100% at fault. I just continued, glad no one was hurt, and my car was still in one piece, and only then called him a dumbass!
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Post by rockynv on Jun 1, 2013 7:07:13 GMT -5
In some countries it is considered a capital crime which carries a death penalty to fail to render aid.... I would be surprised that any country has such a law. If you know of one, I would like to see the actual law. So I would know what countries to avoid. Those would be countries to favor. Where every passerby would be bound by law to do something to prevent harm comming to you would be a good thing indeed. Only did a quick search: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_to_rescuewww.daneurope.org/c/document_library/get_file?uuid=c09228f3-a745-480b-9549-d9fc8bbbd535&groupId=10103Most countries in Europe have a prison term associated with failure to rescue however I believe it was the former Soviet Union or an Arabic county that had it on par with an act of treason against a countryman if you did not render aid. Guess most of the world will be off your list of places to visit. |
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Post by Jarlaxle on Jun 4, 2013 10:09:12 GMT -5
Never help, never stop. Never get involved. No good deed goes unpunished, not worth the risk.
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Post by hank on Jun 4, 2013 11:48:38 GMT -5
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Post by Jarlaxle on Jun 4, 2013 12:25:55 GMT -5
ever since a dude in California get sued & lost after pulling a woman out of a wrecked car with gas dripping everywhere....I say, let them bleed out. Not worth the risk.
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Post by scootnwinn on Jun 4, 2013 13:00:14 GMT -5
As a certified first aid instructor I am obligated to render aid and protected by the good Samaritan's law in my state. Not sure how they could win a case like the one you mentioned...
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Post by hank on Jun 4, 2013 13:03:34 GMT -5
ever since a dude in California get sued & lost after pulling a woman out of a wrecked car with gas dripping everywhere....I say, let them bleed out. Not worth the risk. Hi Be that as it may, i will still offer aid and assistance to any in need Its how i was raised and who i am Take care and ride safely Yours Hank |
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