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Post by larry001964 on May 21, 2013 3:31:26 GMT -5
I think helmets are one of the single best things one can wear... I wear one every time I ride, yes they can be hot and uncomfortable, but better safe than sorry.
My advice is to buy a good one, I had one that was cheaper, and when i got about 25 mph or so it whistled in my ears, preventing me from hearing what was happening around me. I'm the kind of guy that does not wear Ipods, or anything that would impead my senses. When your driving with vehicles that are 2000 pound or more it's us that are at the disadvantage, I strongly recommend a helmet and an MSF.
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Post by rockynv on May 21, 2013 4:37:52 GMT -5
There is a need for the armor even riding in-town where you are more likely to have an incident. A low speed fall off a bike below 20 mph can still leave you with crippling injuries which could be mostly avoided by wearing a lightweight summer jacket with elbow, shoulder and back protection. Novices that read this "it's too hot", "its too bulky" or "not needed in the city" stuff will believe it and could end up getting severely injured.
Just because someone engages is activities that are known to be irresponsible and dangerous and has yet to pay the price for it does not mean that everyone who does the same will get away with it. Don't be the person to pay the price for following some one elses poor choices. Don't become another sad case who no longer can ride and laments that they should have worn their gear.
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Post by SylvreKat on May 21, 2013 5:32:02 GMT -5
I'm tired of you putting words into my posts. I wrote nothing about you ending up in a hospital.
You know what, I'm done. Wrote a response but not worth it, you'll probably just put different words into my "mouth".
I'll just point out once more that my slide out was very low speed. 50cc-speed. In town. And it left a good scrape in my helmet. So please stop posting that you don't need protection at low speeds, or because of "hot" temps (that aren't as hot as my local summer temps, sarcasm aside). You just don't WANT protection. There's a big diff.
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Post by spandi on May 21, 2013 9:42:06 GMT -5
The temps in the SoCal desert make Florida look like Disneyland. (or is that Disneyworld?) Even so, I go out armored for battle, and for about the same reasons you would back east. (Lots of crazy people on god-knows-what, and older folks who's hearing and sight may not be up to par.)
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Post by hank on May 21, 2013 10:55:48 GMT -5
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Post by prodigit on May 21, 2013 11:58:00 GMT -5
Well, the potential exists for pedestrians to also get into an accident. Crossing the street, while a truck passes by. Will we also equip them with helmets and armor, for the 1/1.000.000 chance that they get ran over?
@silvrekat, the hospital thing was not aimed at you, but someone who wrote before you.
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Post by rockynv on May 21, 2013 12:06:02 GMT -5
You encourage people to take unwarranted chances and you are setting yourself up to being held responsible for their losses. In a public forum you are best serving everyone including yourself to endorse playing it safe. If you encourage someone to take risks that go against what the actual experts reccomend then you can and rightly should be held accountable for their inuries.
I would hate to be facing a judge with a mother, father, wife, etc asking that I be made to pay for the losses or morbidity experienced by their relation.
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Post by hank on May 21, 2013 12:10:27 GMT -5
Hi DX I agree with ya Rocky, prodogit if you dont want to wear helmets or gear thats fine you have my best wishes and prayers But please dont tell others to do as you do Take care and ride safely dear friend Yours Hank
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Post by richardthescooter1 on May 21, 2013 12:36:43 GMT -5
DX I agree, whenever on a motercycle, scooter etc... safely should be # 1, here in pa you don't have to wear a helmet, but I do anyway. be a good example for the noobie's ;D
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Post by dragonsparks on May 21, 2013 15:09:50 GMT -5
I Remember Growing up in Amercia...Land of Brave & Free. HELMET!!! We don't need NO stinking HELMET!!! Next they will pass a LAW requiring you to ware a Jock strap, arch support, Hans device and Helmet to drive your to store for a gallon of milk. Reminds me of that old OSHA joke about the new requirement for safety devices needed to ride someones asscot. LOL To be serous. What ever happened to personal responsibility? If I Ride with out helmet, my responsibility. If I ride in rain, wearing flip-flops, shorts & no shirt. My responsibility. Which I have done, not saying it's the smartest thing I've ever done. Still my responsibility. I do have a full set of leather's,glove's,helmet's,goggles,boot's,rain suite,etc.... Which I use when I deem necessary, not cause paul & marry lunchbucket say I should. When they ride, they can wear a suite of armor for all I care. CAUSE IT'S THERE RESPONASBILTY. Truly Dave
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Post by DaveC on May 21, 2013 15:10:31 GMT -5
When I was in the military, it was a requirement to wear ATGATT. On base/off base/on duty/off duty If you were killed, while riding your bike, and did not have on all your gear, the gov't could refuse to pay your $250K gov't life ins.
I'm alive today cause I was wearing my helmet. Nuf said bout dat. Case proven Case closed
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Post by hank on May 21, 2013 15:22:10 GMT -5
Hi This video says it best
Take care and ride safely Yours Hank
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Post by larry001964 on May 21, 2013 15:24:17 GMT -5
Well, the potential exists for pedestrians to also get into an accident. Crossing the street, while a truck passes by. Will we also equip them with helmets and armor, for the 1/1.000.000 chance that they get ran over? @silvrekat, the hospital thing was not aimed at you, but someone who wrote before you. ok Prodigit here are the statics by the cdc on the subject and the links where i got them.. Maybe pedestrians should consider safety gear, but it's no where as high as motorcycle and scooters.. www.cdc.gov/Motorvehiclesafety/Pedestrian_Safety/factsheet.html. In 2010, 4,280 pedestrians were killed in traffic crashes in the United States, and another 70,000 pedestrians were injured. This averages to one crash-related pedestrian death every 2 hours, and a pedestrian injury every 8 minutes.1 Pedestrians are 1.5 times more likely than passenger vehicle occupants to be killed in a car crash on each trip.2 Now motorcycle www.cdc.gov/features/dsmotorcyclesafety/index.htmlA recent CDC study found that: Between 2001 and 2008, more than 34,000 motorcyclists were killed and an estimated 1,222,000 persons were treated in a U.S. emergency department (ED) for a non-fatal motorcycle-related injury. The highest death and injury rates were among 20-24 year-olds, followed by 25-29 year-olds. More than half of all nonfatal injuries treated in EDs were to the leg/foot (30%) or head/neck (22%). Motorcyclist death rates increased 55% from 2001 to 2008 (1.12 per 100,000 persons in 2001 to 1.74 per 100,000 persons in 2008). The number of nonfatal motorcyclist injuries that were treated in EDs also increased, from nearly 120,000 injuries in 2001 to about 175,000 in 2008. How Helmets and Helmet Laws Can Help Helmets save motorcycle riders' lives. The most effective way to get people to wear helmets is by passing and enforcing a universal helmet law. This type of law requires all motorcycle riders and passengers of all ages to wear helmets whenever they ride. Each state decides its respective helmet law. As of May 2012, 19 states and the District of Columbia had universal helmet laws, 28 states had a partial helmet law, and 3 states had no helmet law. Safety Tips for Riders When you ride your motorcycle, follow these tips to stay safe: Always wear a DOT-approved helmet. Never ride your motorcycle after drinking. Alcohol greatly impairs your ability to safely operate a motorcycle. If you have been drinking, get a ride home or call a taxi. Don't let friends ride impaired. Take their keys away. Wear protective clothing that provides some level of injury protection. Upper body clothing should also include bright colors or reflective materials, so that other motorists can more easily see you Avoid tailgating. Maintain a safe speed and exercise caution when traveling over slippery surfaces or gravel. There's a lot more on this at the cdc, but the bottom line is wear your safety gear... Here's a even more info on helmet use from the cdc.. www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6123a1.htm?s_cid=mm6123a1_w
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Post by hank on May 21, 2013 15:31:30 GMT -5
Hi Safety gear does work
Take care and ride safely Yours Hank
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Post by dragonsparks on May 21, 2013 16:05:19 GMT -5
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