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Post by jabulon on Apr 14, 2013 12:19:28 GMT -5
Hay Guys ! I'm having a really bad couple of days ! I have a new Taotao50 chinese scooter with a 139qmb engine. I've rode it abut 100km so far. During the first 50 I haven't sped above 25km/h. It was working perfectly, until two days ago, when I started it as usual, drove for 300 ft until a stop sign, and it died, and refused to start. I walked it back home, and have noticed that there is fuel leaking from the air filter. When I do try to start it, I hear the starter work. The manual starter doesn't do anything. The overflow tube at the top part of the carburetor is dripping fuel out. I figured that the carb is completely soaked, so I let it sit for a few hours. The leakage from the air filter stopped after it spilled about 1/3 of the tank. (the tank was about 7/8 full). The engine started, but had bogged and died after a few seconds. Again, there was fuel running from the air filter and the overflow tube of the carb. At first I've suspected that the idle was too low, so I've adjusted the idle using the small screw. I was able to keep the engine running for a minute on the main stand, giving some gas when it felt like it was about to die. But, after a while it died and did not start again. I believe that giving it a few more hours to drain the carb will allow me to start it again, but it will not last without giving constant gas. I've started reading and researching online and had found that two possible causes are to blame: -there is a problem withing the carburetor which does not shut the fuel flow. -there is a problem with the petcock. Mine has three hoses attached: one from the tank, another to the carb and the third to the manifold. Now, for the question: how can I check which one is faulty ? I examined the carburetor, and the bottom part is non disassemblable. I did remove the top part of the carb, inspected the the diaphragm and the needle; both looked brand new and fine. Thank you in advance for any help !!
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Post by ridecheap on Apr 14, 2013 12:27:27 GMT -5
Someone posted this also:
On my scooter that happens when my air filter is not letting enough air through and it pulls more gas to equalize the vacuum. Then the wet filter makes the filter even less porous and starts a vicious cycle. Also it gets wet when my carb is adjusted too rich.
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Post by chihuahuas on Apr 14, 2013 12:29:03 GMT -5
Float sticking cause a small piece of trash is stuck in the needle seat. Take carb off pop bowl rinse it out. change fuel filter w new one. My scooter does this and it sucks. I go to auto parts and get a lawn mower filter $3 red one and use new tubing 1/4..Stops doing it.
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Post by ridecheap on Apr 14, 2013 12:29:21 GMT -5
Check the throttle cable make sure its not stuck.
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Post by jabulon on Apr 14, 2013 13:06:11 GMT -5
ridecheapchihuahuasThanks for the input, It's great to know that people are willing to help ! After posting, I've went back to the scooter to look at it again....and guess what I've found ? The hose that runs from the petcock to the manifold, I believe that this is the vacuum hose, was wedged between the plastic seat assembly and the metal frame of the bike. I've set it free, and started the scooter. The things is, now it won't stay running without me working the throttle. I was able to run it for about 5 minutes around the block, noticing that it runs well at 1/4 - 1/2 throttle, but boggs and almost dies with anything above it. it died on one of the uphills, and is now soaked again, though the amount of fuel leaking is considerably lower. Any suggestions? could it be the fact that I've played with the idle screw ? Thanks again
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Post by ridecheap on Apr 14, 2013 14:43:51 GMT -5
It died on a uphill and it got soaked again..... hmmm sounds like too much gas to the carb. Check the idle screw make sure its not too rich and not too lean just right.
Take the air intake off and change the air filter. Not getting enough air sucking in too much fuel.
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Post by jabulon on Apr 18, 2013 14:08:43 GMT -5
chihuahuas: My carb is the temper free type, so I try to keep the carb dissasembly as the last resort... ridecheap: Indeed my idle was a bit screwed up. I've tuned it to work ! However, After having the scooter run perfectly for a day, it happened again : the engine and carb were flooded with fuel, which than overflown through the air filter and almost emptied the gas tank. after I've waited for several hours for the fuel to drain (I've opened the carb's drain hole) the scooter started working again. Now I'm too afraid to ride it, because it might get stranded someplace far:( I've read alot about the petcock. Could it be it, or should I just go ahead and try to pry open the carb to clean it ? Thanks again !!!
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Post by millsc on Apr 18, 2013 14:21:05 GMT -5
Float is stuck since there's no screws drain the bowl with drain hose and screw and give the bottom of the carb a good whack or two with a rubber mallet or something of the sort
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Post by alleyoop on Apr 18, 2013 14:33:39 GMT -5
Millsc is correct, your Float is stuck and not shutting off the fuel when the carb bowl is full and the gas keeps coming in and causing the flooding. If your carb has the screws on the bowl cut off you have TWO options: 1. Get an aftermarket carb with the FUEL RATIO SCREW and Carb Bowl screws available(they are cheap). 2. Try and put slots in the bowl screws or a buy a backout drill set.
I would opt for #1 you will sooner or later will have to probably need to clean out the jets and or up-jet if you mod your scoot. Like they say pay me now or pay me later. Alleyoop
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Post by gatekeeper on Apr 18, 2013 14:53:27 GMT -5
In the short term you might try vigorously bouncing the back end of the scooter to dislodge the float or whatever is blocking the float valve. In the long run you are better off getting a new accessible carb as Alleyoop suggests.
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Post by jabulon on Apr 18, 2013 14:53:34 GMT -5
Hmm... How much are those aftermarket carbs ? Is there a specific model or type I should be looking at ?
Anyway, I will try to open the carb tomorrow. What should I be looking at? I believe that the floater is not stuck right now, because I don't have a fuel leak.
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Post by millsc on Apr 18, 2013 14:59:48 GMT -5
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Post by millsc on Apr 18, 2013 15:02:19 GMT -5
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Post by jabulon on Apr 18, 2013 15:15:42 GMT -5
Whoah !!!! Thank you ! My Taotao is a 139qmb engine. Will it fit ?
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Post by millsc on Apr 18, 2013 15:16:41 GMT -5
Yep they will fit just fine
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