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Post by jaciche on Aug 15, 2018 9:48:42 GMT -5
I'm starting to look for tires for my brothers' Agility 125. I believe his front tire size is 120/70-12 and the rear is 130/70-12. The tire sizes on my 150 are the same or very similar. Back when I had my motorcycle, I really liked the Michelin pilot road tires, I see that they have some scooter options like the City Grips and the Power Pures. What tires have you all used that you like? Any other tires that should be considered? I'm looking for tires that have a good mix of gripping the road and a decent tread life.
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Post by tortoise on Aug 15, 2018 11:02:07 GMT -5
I'm looking for tires that have a good mix of gripping the road and a decent tread life.
City Grips
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Post by pistonguy on Aug 15, 2018 11:56:14 GMT -5
Im a Michelin type a guy My needs may be a little more aggressive than others, I absolutely love these tires and is my go to for my 150 from now on.
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Post by jaciche on Aug 15, 2018 12:40:41 GMT -5
Im a Michelin type a guy My needs may be a little more aggressive than others, I absolutely love these tires and is my go to for my 150 from now on. According to Amazon, you can get these tires for bit cheaper than City Grips. The price difference isn't much, but is how does the performance and tread life compare to City Grips?
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Post by chewbaca on Aug 15, 2018 13:02:54 GMT -5
an IRC SS-530 130/70-13 lasted me about 50,000 miles got stolen beat to h€II and was still useful after I got it back I naturally have no idea how much millage was put on while in the possession of others its the tire Bergman uses stock a normal $30 tire last me about 6000 7000 miles if I really push it and change when I see thread
IRC SS-540 is the 12 size
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Post by pistonguy on Aug 15, 2018 13:30:25 GMT -5
Im a Michelin type a guy My needs may be a little more aggressive than others, I absolutely love these tires and is my go to for my 150 from now on. According to Amazon, you can get these tires for bit cheaper than City Grips. The price difference isn't much, but is how does the performance and tread life compare to City Grips? Here is some better details on the Power Pure from Chaparral motor sports. The Power Pure is about as racy as a Scooter tire gets. harder compound in the center and softer on the sides, I would venture to guess the less racy city grip would outlast the Power pure, my preference for my riding is a stick racy tire and I really don't care that much of the milage, the 8 or 9 whatever HP scoot can't blaze these tires so they last plenty long enough for me. www.chapmoto.com/michelin-power-pure-sc-front-rear-tire-parent-190-879808
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Post by oldchopperguy on Aug 15, 2018 22:36:54 GMT -5
I've got to agree with the Michelin Power Pure. My Kymco 250 uses a 120/70-12 front, and 140/70-12 rear. I ran a Michelin Power Pure P-rated (92-mph) on the rear for six years and it was fabulous. On the front, I ran a Shinko P-rated and it was very good.
The mix was because I wanted whitewalls and nobody made a 140/70-12 whitewall, so I painted the sidewalls on the Michelin. Shinko made a 120, AND 130/70-12 whitewall P-rated.
Now, Shinko makes the proper REAR tire in a P-rated whitewall, which I now have in place of the Michelin.
If you, like me, want a good WHITEWALL, I can recommend the Shinko brand. If like most, you are happy with blackwalls, the Michelin Power Pure is an EXCELLENT tire.
I highly recommend using P-rated tires even on scoots that cannot reach the 92-mph speed they're rated for because the quality of the higher speed rated tires improves handling at ALL speeds. They don't cost much more than the usual J-rated tires, but I'd use them on any scoot regardless of displacement. They just handle NOTICEABLY better.
My original Michelin with painted whitewalls now resides in my office... Too many happy miles on it to discard. Even though 7 years old, it is still in mint condition.
Good tires are always a wise investment in safety and handling, not to mention a more enjoyable handling/riding experience...
Ride safe,
Leo in Texas
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Post by jaciche on Aug 16, 2018 8:48:12 GMT -5
Thanks for the response everyone. Now lets talk about tire balancing. Do the wheels need to be balanced once new tires are installed? What should be used if needed? I've read another thread on here about putting beads in the tire.
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Post by floridagull on Aug 16, 2018 9:21:11 GMT -5
FWIW, when I replaced the rear tire on my Kymco Super 8 150R, the "Scooter Genie" (the guy who services my scooter) said there's a mark/dot on the tire that you line up with the valve hole in the wheel... I had no issues thereafter...12" wheels... However, it seems my new Kymco People GT300i (16" wheels) has some weights applied...
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Post by tortoise on Aug 16, 2018 9:28:03 GMT -5
lets talk about tire balancing Too lazy to YouTube?
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Post by pistonguy on Aug 16, 2018 9:53:58 GMT -5
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Post by oldchopperguy on Aug 16, 2018 21:40:54 GMT -5
I strongly recommend balancing... My dealer uses a very simple static balancer similar to a prop-balancer. He did all my tires when he mounted them and they are absolutely vibration-free at ANY speed. I've heard good things about "beads' too, but never tried them as my balanced tires run true and "perfect" up to top-speed.
I'm convinced after seven years that scooter handling (ESPECIALLY the small-wheel variety like the 10" 11" and 12") is affected to a GREAT degree by the tire quality, AND balance.
Back in the day, I rode mostly Harley-Davidson big twins. Choppers in my youth, dressers/baggers later on. My old Kymco 250 runs as smooth at 75 on good, well-balanced speed-rated Shinkos as any of my Hogs did. And "Minnie Mouse" rides on little 12-inchers...
Properly balanced quality tires bring small-wheel scooters MUCH closer to full-size motorcycle riding whether in-town, or at highway speeds. And preserves the nimble scooter handling.
I must add that while the Shinko tires are very good, Michelin Power Pures are slightly better. But Shinko is the ONLY brand to offer P-rated whitewalls... LOL! They'll do just fine, and provide that old-school street-tread look I want!
Ride safe!
Leo in Texas
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Post by Jarlaxle on Aug 18, 2018 10:07:57 GMT -5
Many shops CANNOT balance scooter tires-they won't fit the balancer.
My wife's PC has balancing beads in both tires-glass-smooth to 110+MPH.
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Post by jaciche on Mar 12, 2021 14:14:56 GMT -5
Well, after using beads in my rear wheel for a year, I can notice the difference. I'll be putting balancing beads in the front tire when it's time to replace it. I was planning on getting a Michelin Power Pure SC to match my rear. I noticed that prices are going up on those. My size is $60 on BikeBandit.com currently. Does anybody have a review on these Kenda K6022 Kozmik tires? $31 currently... www.bikebandit.com/tires-tubes/motorcycle-tires/kenda-k6022-kozmik-scooter-tire/p/63899
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Post by flyangler on Mar 12, 2021 15:29:06 GMT -5
I would stay with the Power Pure on the front unless you are changing the rear also, the reason being the Power Pure's are duel compound tires sticky on the sides when you corner and longer lasting on the bottom, the Kenda tire is a big drop in quality in terms of performance and would not corner as well.
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