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Post by wheelbender6 on Aug 7, 2018 21:27:43 GMT -5
Remember when we found out that Paris plans to ban scoots and motorcycles older than 1966 or so? Hanoi plans to ban all Scooters and small motorcycles from roads within the city limits by 2030. Why? To force people to ride public transportation for cleaner air and to reduce the climbing vehicle accident rates. I hate to see that happen to the scooter capital of the world. More below at the link. newatlas.com/hanoi-2030-motorcycle-ban/55772/
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Post by pistonguy on Aug 8, 2018 6:43:21 GMT -5
Gotta love a Unitary Marxist-Leninist one-party Socialist Republic.
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Post by w650 on Aug 8, 2018 14:53:01 GMT -5
Love this.
"Together with coal-fired power plants and local heavy industry, Hanoi's 5 million motorcycles – the vast majority of which are 110-125cc scooters – contribute to some of the worst pollution in South-East Asia"
Oh yes, those scooters and motorcycles are really the problem. There would probably be much less pollution if they just switched to Mass Transit. Will they ban those coal fired power plants too?
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Post by cookees on Aug 8, 2018 16:58:23 GMT -5
Maybe we can get Jane Fonda to go over there and speak on our behalf.
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Post by Jarlaxle on Aug 8, 2018 20:40:12 GMT -5
As long as she doesn't come back...
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Post by SylvreKat on Aug 11, 2018 8:21:56 GMT -5
Maybe we can get Jane Fonda to go over there and speak on our behalf. She could have her picture taken sitting on a scooter with a bunch of chicken coops and some pigs. >'Kat
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Post by w650 on Aug 11, 2018 13:01:49 GMT -5
Let me tell you of an equally stupid City. New York has noticed that vehicle traffic in Midtown is atrocious. Cabs, Uber and Lyft are operating alongside trucks, buses and private vehicles. So they declare that there will be "Congestion Pricing" in the form of tolls for vehicles operating there during peak hours. The AMA saw the plan and noticed that bikes and scooters get no free or reduced rates. The City basically said Tough Beans everybody pays the same.
Think what the traffic would look like if they replaced a bunch of those cars with single occupants with bikes and scooters. But Nooooo.
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Post by wheelbender6 on Aug 11, 2018 17:29:12 GMT -5
Didn't NYC ban electric bicycles? That's odd since traditional 70s style mopeds are still legal there.
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Post by floridagull on Aug 13, 2018 11:29:25 GMT -5
Didn't NYC ban electric bicycles? That's odd since traditional 70s style mopeds are still legal there. Ban electric bicycles? I'm glad I escaped the northeast...
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Post by w650 on Aug 13, 2018 14:23:10 GMT -5
NYC lifted the ban on April 18th of this year as they saw delivery companies were deeply entrenched in them. They have made 20 mph as the allowable top speed, although I would like to see them track it. Most 50cc scooters are listed with top speeds of 30 mph to qualify for moped registration. My experience with two 50cc scooters, a two stroke and a four stroke, showed they were easily capable of hitting 40. Frankly I would rather see the streets there filled with scooters and e-bikes than Ford Expeditions.
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Post by cyborg55 on Aug 14, 2018 7:37:17 GMT -5
I'll go the other way thank you very much,,,I wouldn't take a penthouse in Manhattan for free if I had to live in it,,,(yes I'd take it for free if I could sell it after all I'm not THAT STUPID),,,I moved into a rural area on purpose,,,,I live on a 3 mile dead end road and my driveway is a 1/4 mile long,,,,my neighbors are avocado and orange trees and horses,,,they don't complain much
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Post by ricardoguitars on Aug 14, 2018 9:20:02 GMT -5
They should at least support electric scooters, but I understand the accidents situation, here in Costa Rica we are in the same dilemma, kamikaze riders and distracted idiots in cages have converted the streets into carnage areas, but banning 2 wheelers is not going to change that, they will find another way to be stupid and keep killing each other and themselves, I believe the problem is that police is not present on the roads, everyone do as they please and there is no authority around enforcing the law.
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Post by w650 on Aug 14, 2018 15:15:32 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong Pete I wouldn't live there either. I spent six years in Brooklyn with Sara until we moved to the boonies upstate. I rode bicycles in Manhattan with her many times after crossing the Brooklyn Bridge and it was a zoo. Given the traffic there a few thousand scooters instead of cars could only help the congestion and create a boom economy for scooter repairs. There are scads of bicycle shops and a few more scooter joints would be a welcome addition.
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Post by pistonguy on Aug 14, 2018 17:02:37 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong Pete I wouldn't live there either. I spent six years in Brooklyn with Sara until we moved to the boonies upstate. I rode bicycles in Manhattan with her many times after crossing the Brooklyn Bridge and it was a zoo. Given the traffic there a few thousand scooters instead of cars could only help the congestion and create a boom economy for scooter repairs. There are scads of bicycle shops and a few more scooter joints would be a welcome addition. But thats logical common sense, we must make things more complicated and feel good on the other left coast. I own and keep a cheap mountain bike at one of my favorite isla dive destinations, its the best way to get around colonial latin islands and cities and rent a scooter when I have to. and when I don't belong on the road I pay the taxi....
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