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Yes sir, it's a Battle of The Worst Vs The Worse. Or vice-versa

These are the ones, these are the "big boys." Don't worry smaller dealers, if you do a Google search you know these guys and their affiliates come up first, so don't lose any sleep. These are the HUGE drop shippers which promise the moon and stars and deliver a scooter in a box at your door, just like most others.

BUT, are their claims of customer service and satisfaction we read at the sites true? Find out right here in this thread!

Have an experience with one of these sellers? Considering buying from one of them? Any good reason to buy or not? Recently purchased something? Let us know all about it right here as to inform others of these mighty sales titans of the chinese scoot!

Ah man those guys are terrible. TERRIBLE!!

What with Alleyoops being so unhelpful and Skuttadawg being a small wheel'd scooter carburetor h8ter, idk which is worse for the community!!!! Just AWFUL!!

Next thing you know this place will turn into a Chinese scooter board!!

[replyingto=millsc]millsc[/replyingto]it seems no matter what or who they are its a matter of being too self important, self indulgent, and believing you know something others don't, and intend to make a point of it

politically, ideologically, personally, and mentally these folks are bent and full of themselves. in short....they're stupid and unhappy and full of fear. this leads to distrust and disconnect and hate. put that together with self important thinking and....kaboom

This is good info. I shall make a note:

"IF KICKSTAND NOT DOWN SCOOTER MAY FALL OVER"

Done!

Yes. Very crowded. Bombs designed to kill people, not blow up buildings. Reports say the loads were packed with ball bearings for maximum casualties as the bearings turn into projectiles at the point of the blast

It's my understanding that lane splitting and filtering are essentially one in the same. Splitting can be done when traffic is moving, also. But "filtering" is also splitting lanes. You can also filter when traffic is moving. This involves moving forward in and out of lanes to get through traffic.

I don't quite understand the reasoning that so called filtering is safer because traffic is not moving? Most of the danger of splitting when traffic is moving comes from the rider / bike, not the cage being passed. When splitting moving traffic imo you are very unlikely to get swiped or hit at the side as traffic is tight enough that cages are blocked in by one another, and they know it. So, you just ride between them in your own little lane. It's up to the rider to maintain the lane for as long as they are splitting

What is NOT safe is so called "lane sharing." This is when a rider or cage just rides alongside another vehicle in the same lane for a shorter or longer extended period without making a move to pass, or pass quickly enough. For obvious reasons this can be bad

But splitting moving traffic? Just ride straight and adjust as necessary. Watch for gaps as cars like to make quick moves into them, and pass traffic and be happy. It also helps for when cars do get close, or you get close to cars in other situations. And we realize a "close call" really isn't close at all. Avoiding impact no matter how close is the only thing that matters. Be it two inches or two yards a miss is a miss. And on a bike a two inch miss is a very good thing, indeed. Just as well as two yards imo. So that makes lane splitting more reasonable for some