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Post by carasdad on Apr 13, 2013 7:38:30 GMT -5
Ok...now that chihuahuas has defined what it is....if anybody needs one..let me know. Since it was sent as a wrong part..they told me just keep it and they would send the right one. Freebie to me....so freebie to you..just cover shipping.  |
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Post by carasdad on Apr 13, 2013 7:29:36 GMT -5
wiscompton and indymoped why ya shooting down my stuff when wiscompton...you said you knew nothing about the CDI. Both of you say it can be used on a 4 stroke. My question is...jog/minarelli is a 5 pin connector....QMB139 and QMJ157 GY6 engines are 6 pin. So how could you wire a 5 pin CDI to a 6 pin connector. On the 6pin CDI 2 of the pins are ground. On a 5pin only one of the pins are ground. So if you switch to a 5pin all you have to do is connect those 2 groundwires to the one groundwire on the 5pin CDI. You will also need a wiring diagram (of both scooters) to figure out where the other wires go. It takes a little effort, but it will work. Well that is true...2 are ground..I suppose you could make it work...but you would need to buy the plugs for it to fit the 4T. The company makes one for 4T also...and of course being 4T the parts are a bit cheaper than 2T....which still I don't understand  |
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Post by carasdad on Apr 12, 2013 21:48:06 GMT -5
No, single phase 50cc 1/2 wave system 150cc fullwave single phase (Some, not all) 400cc + EFI most all have 3 phase. 50cc 70 watts 150cc 70watts - 120 watts 400cc+ 3 phase 260 watts Ok kewl. So will a full wave work on the 50 that uses 1/2 wave? Not talking about ones like this I had sent incorrectly...which is a floating ground. So full wave without the floating ground..I see many of those and it seems they would put out more current since they are working on both + and - sides of the cycle. |
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Post by carasdad on Apr 12, 2013 21:37:04 GMT -5
Floating ground full wave charging system found on some 150cc scoot,3 Can be used if stator is connected like so:   you have to determine the correct pin out by finding the foward bias of the bridge rectifier using a multimeter and set it to diode.   Ahh ok...thanks. So it is for a 3 phase system? |
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Post by carasdad on Apr 12, 2013 21:31:53 GMT -5
Actually that CDI will work on a 2 stroke or a 4 stroke. The spark plug is fired on the compression stroke and on the exhaust stroke. wiscompton and indymoped why ya shooting down my stuff when wiscompton...you said you knew nothing about the CDI. Both of you say it can be used on a 4 stroke. My question is...jog/minarelli is a 5 pin connector....QMB139 and QMJ157 GY6 engines are 6 pin. So how could you wire a 5 pin CDI to a 6 pin connector. |
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Post by carasdad on Apr 12, 2013 21:20:25 GMT -5
I understand what it is all about , explaining it is another story . I think I have the regulator you need . Floating would require you to lift the grounds of the bank of coils (yellow and white) splice them together then use the ground from the regulator side . (I know its not clear) This is what I would try next www.testedscooterparts.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=10587386&searchop=or&x=16&y=8I know this one will charge the battery , the voltage was on the high side it was getting near 16vdc , a ballast resistor may load it down . You might want to add some lights or something . www.testedscooterparts.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=10562489&searchop=or&x=6&y=12JR might have some light to shed on this , I remember he mentioned something about 16v , I don't remember the details . It seems a too high for me my concern would be cooking the battery . If you have the time to tinker with adding some load I think you could balance the load with the second link . John True....I could do the math and calculate a ballast resistor. But I am installing side mount running lights(too many close calls from blind cagers) So that should help bleed off some of the current. However I am not going to mess with that R/R....nor will I be getting anymore parts from that wholesaler as the 4-6 day express shipping I pay for...takes about 20 days...and every order I would estimate that 10% of it is incorrect parts.  |
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Post by carasdad on Apr 12, 2013 20:35:18 GMT -5
been there done that , that is why I went with 11pole stator and 7pin regulator . now I have no worries about the 4pin mystery . John John....you are the electrical type....any Idea what any of it is..or means?..Full wave or floating ground?.. |
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Post by carasdad on Apr 12, 2013 18:35:26 GMT -5
Good...so I am not the only one that doesn't know....20 others that read the post don't know either....so we all must be confuzzled huh?... ;D
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Post by carasdad on Apr 12, 2013 16:12:59 GMT -5
Try it on the centerstand....if it revs good with no load on it....it will allow us to better help you find and fix the issue... |
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Post by carasdad on Apr 12, 2013 15:53:46 GMT -5
Confuzzled wrong part sent.What is this thing? I ordered a common 4 pin rectifier/regulator and they send this. So I mount it to my Jonway 2T and the lights were super dim...the wire barely even had a glow. Tried on a 4T Sunny..same thing.Almost twice as big as the r/r on either scoot. So I take a pic of the old one and new one to send them because this was obviously the wrong part. They concurred it was definitely wrong. They sent me a full wave floating ground rectifier he said. ok.. Full wave?....Floating ground? Anybody know what this means besides it won't work on a typical Minarelli or GY6? He said just keep it...no need to send it back..he would just send the correct one. So what is full wave....and floating ground?... and does anybody use one of these. Not an Electronics Engineer...that was my father. All I know is the normal r/r I get say 1/2 wave and that's it. Full wave and floating ground has me scratching my head. What is full wave...and how can a ground 'float' I thought you either had a good solid ground...or you didn't have a ground...whereas nothing would work  Attachments:
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Post by carasdad on Apr 11, 2013 20:53:32 GMT -5
Umm..yeah..ok..that is for a 4 STROKE! 4 Stroke parts are always cheaper than 2 stroke parts as everyone on here knows. Reason why? We have no clue since they have less intricate and less moving parts. Case in point. 4 stroke BBK $40-$99.... 2 stoke BBK $80-$200. So your comment and link do not apply here..  |
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Post by carasdad on Apr 11, 2013 20:48:36 GMT -5
WHAT!! just because you have an advancing CDI DOES NOT mean it will take off on you  You still have to TWIST the throttle to whatever speed you want to go at  . Alleyoop Alleyoop and marshalldillion..EXACTLY what I told her! I said "Look your car is capable of 120mph+...but does not mean ya gotta drive it that fast" My Hayabusa Crotch Rocket did 160+ mph....I hit  once..and just took their word for its top speed..was NOT about to verify anything  |
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Post by carasdad on Apr 11, 2013 19:24:37 GMT -5
marshalldillion is right...the 4 cycle bike engines are not as 'slouchy' as ya think. I know a college student that has one. You order different size sprockets for them and tailor them to your need. His goes 38+ which is quite fast and a bit of a scary ride on an 18 speed bicycle that you can normally peddle at about 20 mph max. Plus he needs not mix oil and gas...and his 4T is quite a lot above 100mpg. The 1 quart tank gets him to school and back for 2 days, so with gas here at $3.80 it costs him  cents per day..vice $5.00 for his car. |
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Post by carasdad on Apr 11, 2013 17:49:53 GMT -5
Bought 2...1 for my sisters scoot. But she doesn't want it..she is happy at 40 mph with 5 gram KOSO sliders and 1k springs. She rode my modded scoot..and said 56mph was just insane on something so small and light. |
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Post by carasdad on Apr 11, 2013 16:46:02 GMT -5
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once..and just took their word for its top speed..was NOT about to verify anything 
cents per day..vice $5.00 for his car.