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Post by danstone on Sept 22, 2018 20:39:49 GMT -5
I will look up the VIN for everyone but is was identical body style to the Roketa Bali MC-13 250cc and apparently I purchased the last CDI from the company but I need to order a spare. I'll update this on Monday.
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Post by danstone on Sept 17, 2018 20:42:43 GMT -5
OK I did everything coil, pickup and stator, starter clutch, removed the alarm system, new battery, replaced gasket for exhaust, for backfire and that did nothing, cleaned the carb so many times I can remove it completely in the dark, watched 324 videos of people who shouldn't use tools, traced wires, adjusted valves 4 times just to make sure I wasn't stupid. I tried 6 different CDIs (5 didn't work right from dead to only running high RPMs and no idle to just idle and no acceleration)
It was the stupid CDI There are apparently a number of different ones for the Linhai motors mine is the LM170MN. once you get the right one, you are in business.
Thank you everyone for your help. how would I have known it was bad.
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Post by danstone on Sept 12, 2018 20:21:44 GMT -5
OK its going to a different shop an hour and twenty minutes away, they cant look at it for a week and then probably at least 1 week to fix if they order any parts.
It starts and idles with the first cdi but stumbles and shudders when giving throttle and really doesn't do much. The other cdi was too hard to get started and to be at all reliable and the fuel mixture was at 3.5 turns out and had to be started WOT. but it did go.
I've tried the starter fluid trick spraying it around hoses, intake manifold and airbox none of that changed the idle so there shouldn't be a leak (visual checks and feeling didn't reveal anything either)
So with the current CDI I guess the correct explanation is that it idles perfect at 1.75 turns out on the mixture screw and stumbles and almost dies if you twist the throttle. It's getting gas when I've turned it off and removed the carb the bowl is full. (the tank is lower and is pumped via vacuum)
Is it a main jet issue? or just take it to the pros in a week? or something else.
It's been a month and a half I'm tired chasing my own tail.
Thank you
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Post by danstone on Sept 5, 2018 21:19:20 GMT -5
I figured I should update things I took it to a shop they had it 2 weeks called and said we checked the carband monkeyed with it a total of 2 hours here is your bill, sorry it's still not working. I figured I have gas I have compression so after 3 wonky CDI's I received one that worked.
I now have only one problem I have to open the throttle half way to get the engine started and keep it at a high idle. if I let off on the throttle it dies
Any thoughts?
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Post by danstone on Aug 12, 2018 17:06:20 GMT -5
I put in an new ngk plug and new starter clutch. because mine went out. I put everything evrything together (oil too) turned the key pushed the button it started instantly ran real good for 30 seconds to a minute I gave it a little throttle and ok gave it a bunch I bogged down so I leaned it up a smidge and then it started knocking horribly it would still respond to the throttle but I shut it down. I've heard mowers make the same noise when low on oil, but my level reads ok and I had given it right around a quart and it read right on the stick on the ground not on the kickstand. Please give me an idea or should this be scrapped and cut the losses.
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Post by danstone on Aug 5, 2018 10:14:45 GMT -5
oops yes I did that too. As I described it at the autoparts store the guy he said did it have a mouse living in it I said yes but none of the wires look bothered the loom is intact. he said he had something similar and the mouse pee corroded some connections so today I'm metering out all the wires for the ignition system.
BTW the starter clutch went out
my $120 deal is hogging a bunch of time oh well it was still a good deal
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Post by danstone on Aug 4, 2018 12:59:56 GMT -5
Getting plenty of gas checked that, thanks for the recommendation. I want to say its the coil but I can't seem to get the right coil. It's a 2 wire I've tried 4 of them. and only the one that came with the scooter seems to work correctly the others I've gotten fire like every third or forth time it should. the coil it came with fires for a while and then once the motor is getting warm it starts acting crazy. the choke appears to be working correctly too. the carb has been cleaned twice. Just an hour ago I tried another coil and the starter started turning the motor and then just makes a spinning sound but doesn't appear to be doing anything. so I need to take it apart and clean that up and check connections 1 cleaned carb 2 replaced stator and pickup ( was reading as a short) 3 replaced CDI and replaced it again (thinking it was causing the problem not sparking enough) 4 attempted to replace the coil same time as 3 the new coil would spark about 1/3 to 1/4 as many times as it needed 5 checked and re checked valve adjustments 6 adjusted the fuel air mixture to about 1 1/2 out (might be a bit lean now harder to start) 7 replaced the exhaust gasket. 8 I'm sure I've forgotten something I just want to go for a ride at this point. Thanks for any input shouldn't just about any 2 wire coil work ?
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Post by danstone on Jul 29, 2018 22:23:07 GMT -5
I tightened up the exhaust the miss is still there but no backfires at idle. Put on the seat (it's new to me just wanted to feel the wind in my hair (on my arms) ) and the thing idles great but as soon as i give it more throttle it starts bucking and bogs down shakes like crazy and still get a miss and a backfire occasionally. Eventually hitting about 30 before the street ends. Any other ideas?
Replaced gasket tonight we will know whats going on tomorrow
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Post by danstone on Jul 29, 2018 15:31:40 GMT -5
Well I thought it was fixed it starts and runs in the garage well it idles with a barely noticeable miss. If you give it gas it will start to rev and then pop (a nice little backfire from the exhaust) I've adjusted the air mixture but it also misses occasionally at idle. I've adjusted and readjusted the valves it starts as quick as I've seen. Just replaced CdI fuel filter voltage regulator an stater and pickup I think that covers it thanks to whoever checks in
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Post by danstone on Jul 25, 2018 14:35:28 GMT -5
It's fixed minus a backfire from the exhaust gasket. It was a coil that had been replaced. The first coil metered out bad so I replaced it installed the new one. along with the CDI because I had not been getting any spark at all. With the second coil it had spark but never thought about it sparking slowly, like every so many revolutions it sparked. The third coil works well and sparks all the time.
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Post by danstone on Jul 23, 2018 19:56:43 GMT -5
The alignments with the tdc on the cam and the flywheel were lined up and the valves adjusted again and double checked once tightened. Is there a chance my cdi is bad or got shipped wrong? The part was labeled seadoo starter something, it fits perfect, the plug matches but most bombardier engines are 2 cyl or 3cyl. I just don't know the next step should I order another cdi?
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Post by danstone on Jul 22, 2018 21:19:13 GMT -5
I found the Linhai valve adjustment pdf I didn't align the cam with the flywheel and timing chain tomorrow I will do that, and update. If anyone has a different idea that would be great.
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Post by danstone on Jul 22, 2018 19:25:46 GMT -5
I'll flip it around. I put it back on the way I found it but who knows if it was right when I got it. I'll do that in a bit and report back. I don't have a compression tester yet (Harbor Freight here I come) other than the finger plugging the hole test I got ten of those testers, but they aren't calibrated. OK flipped the intake valve cover. The engine cranked a bit quicker when it did fire it sounded stronger ( not sure if that's the word I want to use)
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Post by danstone on Jul 22, 2018 17:54:06 GMT -5
Ok this is one of those things where it got put in the shed cause it was end of the season and kept killing the battery. when I got it, it didn't have spark, replaced stator/pickup, voltage regulator, cdi, spark plug, and coil. I now have a signal to the cdi and spark but it won't start I set the valve last to .004 and .005 I just used the alignment in the little hole for the flywheel mark. But this is what it does. It sounds like the timing is way off, but I don't know how to do that I thought that was the cdi's job. Almost forgot has air and gas. Same results with spaying starter fluid too.
Thanks for the help
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Post by danstone on Jul 21, 2018 22:24:31 GMT -5
probably under the front plastics, if you get lucky its connected with a plug. Mine had one and on the alarm side I attached the grey and pink wires and I was able to get spark. This is the image of a jumper plug, that would be removed if you were adding an alarm.
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