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Post by w650 on Jun 21, 2017 16:20:42 GMT -5
I use Cheng Shin tires whenever I can. They give reasonable mileage and enough traction for me. The one in the back of my 150cc scooter even came from Taiwan so name doesn't necessarily mean poor quality. My Fashion is doing well with the Shinkos on it. They were the cheapest tires I could find in the size I needed.
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Post by w650 on Jun 21, 2017 9:08:08 GMT -5
The problem with tires is liability, IMO. They make them stickier so the lowest common denominator doesn't slide off the road as easily. Of course they don't last so the companies sell more of them.
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Post by w650 on Jun 20, 2017 13:27:06 GMT -5
I believe you Kat. I've had some un-sticky tires on my cars over the years. They howled like a banshee on cloverleafs. The original OEM tires on my '72 Toyota were hazardous in the rain. They didn't stick at all and hydroplaned in the wet. Everybody has had at least one set of tires that were hard as rocks.
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Post by w650 on Jun 19, 2017 8:28:44 GMT -5
8,000 miles from a ten inch tire? I have 6,000 on my 150cc rear tire right now and and it's bald. My best mileage on a scooter rear tire was from a $70 Bridgestone ML-16 on the Fashion @ 6,300. Tires today suck. My OEM tire on my 1979 Kawasaki went 19,000 and I regularly got 14,000 from a rear tire no matter the brand. Fronts lasted 35,000 usually. NOT TODAY! My bikes blow through rears in 8,000 and fronts at 12,000. My 2000 W650 used the rear OEM by 6,000 and the front at 8,000. I ride like an old lady and the temperatures here rarely exceed  ninety degrees. BTW. My front 10 inch tire on the 150cc is nine years old, has 9,700 and looks just fine. The rear OEM only lasted 3,000. Maybe the front has age hardened but it's not dry rotting. I'll keep it on there until it balds out in another 10 years or so. If I have to plug it, well so be it. |
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Post by w650 on Jun 17, 2017 18:16:15 GMT -5
That's $30 plus shipping. I used a Vee Rubber on the Fashion. Never again. It toasted at 2,300 to the cord. The $35 Shinko on there now is at 3,000 with little sign of wear. With the $40 front tire, also a Shinko, I'm into $75 for the pair. A far cry from $40 a set and that's the cheapest I could go.
The first rule of economics Rocky. There's no such thing as a free lunch or a $40 set of scooter tires.
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Post by w650 on Jun 14, 2017 19:10:43 GMT -5
I sold Rich his SYM Citycom 300. It was my personal bike and it had just shy of 1000 miles before I had it carted to Alabama. Rich loved it and did an elaborate pictorial of it. It was way past the Carter Bros. era bikes and was a '13. Okay. Got that wrong. How is Alliance to deal with for parts? Mike seems to be running a dynamic company. Is it as solid as it appears? |
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Post by w650 on Jun 13, 2017 3:49:03 GMT -5
For many scooter riders tire costs will be less than $40 a set.
$40. A set. I have 3.5 X 10 on my 150. Where can I get a $20 tire?
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Post by w650 on Jun 12, 2017 4:50:23 GMT -5
If I replaced tires that often the cost would be a little expensive. I'll replace a tire if it's dry rotted but not because it's three years old. Tires these days are ridiculously short lived already. Nothing lasts over 10,000 miles any more which is a major shortcoming to me. Since they won't live that long anyway plugging makes total sense to me. Especially since anecdotal evidence of plugged tires failing is fairly non-existent. As I said. Not riding at all is best since a flat can happen at anytime. I'm also saying if a tire is plugged then be aware of that and don't ride at top speed anymore.
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Post by w650 on Jun 10, 2017 21:18:34 GMT -5
Jump on the SYM before it's gone.
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Post by w650 on Jun 10, 2017 9:58:05 GMT -5
Now that Mike at Alliance is at the helm I wouldn't be concerned about that. Rich bought his SYM during the transition from Carter Brothers. Now that Mike is doing the Lance-SYM Tango I'm betting parts can be had. Mike even responds on Facebook, or at least his people do.
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Post by w650 on Jun 9, 2017 20:18:37 GMT -5
Do you good people think the mileage is OK - or excessive? In the year 2017 I can't fathom why people think 17,000 miles is excessive. I absolutely howl when I hear certain Italian scooter owners calling 30,000 miles "The Holy Grail". Metallurgy today is so sophisticated cars do 300,000 miles regularly. Why should two wheelers be so less durable? Is the mileage excessive. No. The 1983 Kawasaki I bought last year had 42,000 miles on it. I didn't flinch at buying it. One night I did 300 highway miles without a hiccup. Guess how far designs have come in 34 years. Buy the SYM. |
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Post by w650 on Jun 9, 2017 7:51:30 GMT -5
The miles don't mean much if the scooter has been maintained. The HD is faster and has a ceramic liner in the cylinder. It will do highway speeds easily and be better all around. It's the motorcycle of scooters. People have used it as a daily commuter. The Yager is a scooter. Yes, it has fuel injection but it won't perform like the HD.
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Post by w650 on Jun 8, 2017 18:39:25 GMT -5
The HD 200 has always had a sterling reputation. It's been around for ten years and has a reputation for speed and reliability. Heck, it won the 2008 Cannonball Scooter Run. The Yager, not so much.
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Post by w650 on Jun 7, 2017 16:01:13 GMT -5
I've never understood the philosophy at Piaggio. To me the pressed steel frame on a Vespa against the tube frame on a Piaggio is a non issue. They both have the same engines. Why would you cough up five grand on a 150cc Primavera when a Three thousand dollar Fly 150 sports the same motor. The engine is what gets you down the road not the frame or supposed "Mystique". In my mind the total buy in this class comes from Taiwan. Either the Like or 168cc SYM Fiddle III or Lance scoots (PCH, Havana, Cali Classic) make the most sense.
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Post by w650 on Jun 6, 2017 18:38:21 GMT -5
This quote from Motorcycle.com made me giggle. For Piaggio this must be annoying. It’s the Like 150i ABS, a product that clearly takes aim at Vespa’s Primavera (and Sprint) 150. It offers similar performance, safety and style, but at just $2,599 is half the price of its Italian cousin’s $5,099 MSRP.www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/kymco/2018-kymco-like-150i-abs-review.htmlThe Chinese all but own the 50cc market and the Taiwanese are beating Piaggio's doors down with this and the SYM Fiddle III in the under 200cc market. |
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