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Post by 926am on Jun 22, 2020 8:22:43 GMT -5
$3k is a little out of my budget!!!😂😂😂
I replaced the needle, plunger, & spring (from another identical carb) The new spring was more compact, & the needle was perfectly straight. It felt better immediately.
Engine is really close to ‘dialed in.’ I get just a hint of too rich when I roll off from wot.
I guess I can reduce the main jet down to #130 & shim the plunger needle. (At #130 it felt limited at wot, like anything over 55 mph was an effort. With the #135 it keeps going, pulling good.)
Getting close...
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Post by 926am on Jun 21, 2020 8:27:10 GMT -5
Wide open throttle is perfect! Nice strong pull. There’s still a bit of richness when I roll off the throttle. Looks like I’ll have to adjust the plunger needle. Can anyone advise, what increments to adjust? I’m currently at the end so I cant move the clip any more, so regarding a new needle, how much bigger should it be? Looks like the clip increments are pretty tight...just a few millimeters in between... so a new needle should be like 5 mil longer?
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Post by 926am on Jun 20, 2020 17:11:04 GMT -5
I got a new genuine honda choke that plugs into the frame harness. Its works perfectly.
Seems the problem was being caused by over-jetting. I reduced the #145 main to #135 & the issue has vanished. I havent ridden this bike since last year, and I cant remember why the jetting was so high.
Pulls real nice now! Thanks for all ur suggestions. I got it ‘for sale’ on insta @918am and smartcycleguide
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Post by 926am on Jun 20, 2020 9:25:35 GMT -5
Thanks! I checked it out and the rubber o-ring had come apart. It was half out of the hole. I replaced the choke w/a new one and took it for a ride, same problem. Nature of the issue was exactly the same. Back to the drawing board😥
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Post by 926am on Jun 19, 2020 11:53:59 GMT -5
Yes to all of that. The stock carb is 30mm, 32mm is for more flow. They look identical, so I don’t know where/what the bypass valve is.
It has one radiator. Its a ‘06 cf moto v3. I really don’t think the choke is the problem, you can hear the rpms pick up when it pulls off. If it were stuck/not functioning I think drivebility would suffer throughout the rpm/throttle band.
The reason I brought up timing is due to the aftermarket cam. I’ve read that they could be off, but w/o timing marks on the variator/frame I can’t see how to check w/a gun. It’s just one more thing that would normally be checked on a car. You know, rule stuff out.
I guess the main problem is rpm drop at highway speed & wide open throttle (or just when i back off). Its backfired 2 or 3 times, but the loss of power is everytime.
The coil & cdi are stock, but I have others to try if either one could be the culprit.
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Post by 926am on Jun 19, 2020 6:22:27 GMT -5
Yes, I feel I am throwing a lot of repairs at this issue too! But thankfully its not my main bike so I can take some time w/it. Does the air bypass valve have another name? I googled it for my cvk carb but couldn’t find anything in the diagrams, and everything is connected properly. The choke seems to be working perfectly. Its a genuine Honda unit & the system is 12volt. It pulls off after about 3-5 min. Getting back to the timing, its an after-market cam (endigo rock crawler) & I’ve read that these could be off by a couple teeth & the motor will start and run fine, except for higher rpms. I have a timing light gun, can this be checked? Thanks for any insights.
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Post by 926am on Jun 18, 2020 18:50:25 GMT -5
I have an aftermarket carb, so I don’t think I have a bypass valve. My intake manifold vacuum fitting is blocked off (rubber cap.) I wrote that the problem only occurs when warm & wot, but I think high rpms/speed is more accurate. When I give it full throttle from a stand still it seems pretty smooth. Only when doing 45-55 mph do I encounter the problem. Its been a challenging problem. First I thought it was bad gas (there was rust in tank) so I cleaned it out & put in a tank liner. Fuel filter was still catching particles after, so I drained & cleaned out the lines/carb cleaning. Then, the muffler was getting loose so I fixed that. Checked cyl head bolts & one seemed less tight than others. Currently: waiting on exhaust manifold gasket, and head gasket. Frustrating!
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Post by 926am on Jun 16, 2020 13:04:48 GMT -5
Or could it be a blown head gasket? No visible leakage for oil or coolant. Perhaps I should retorque the head...
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Post by 926am on Jun 15, 2020 10:46:55 GMT -5
Its only when i back off a little. As I drop to mid-throttle (or less) power is smooth. I know these motors can be sensitive especially when there are mods. Its just so strange that its good when cold but not when hot. I have a new exhaust gasket on order, but I was looking for other possibilities. You think I should try to lean out the idle circuit?
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Post by 926am on Jun 14, 2020 10:54:17 GMT -5
Ok, I replaced intake gasket & tightened carb clamp. Slip-on muffler seemed a little loose so I used a pipe expander to tighten it up. Tightened up exhaust manifold bolts. I took for a test ride but no change. Checked valve adjust-good. (Adjusted between loud chatter and rpm drop) While I wait for a new exhaust gasket, could this problem be ignition? Could a faulty coil perform well when warm/cold but fail near wot?
(I start driving the bike after I hear the choke come off, rpms & power are always smooth right up to wot & as I roll off. After 10 min at high speeds (50-60mph) is when prob starts. Always when I roll off from wot.)
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Post by 926am on Jun 13, 2020 15:03:54 GMT -5
Yeah I was thinking that too. Places to check: air filter, intake manifold, exhaust manifold. Am I missing any?
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Post by 926am on Jun 13, 2020 10:50:49 GMT -5
Hello, I’m getting popping/backfiring/lose of power when I back-off wide-open-throttle. I have a rock crawler cam, which I’ve read could be off even when installed correctly. Can the timing be checked w/a timing gun? I’d hate to try the ‘reinstall a tooth off’ method til it works. What’s strange is that this problem occurs when hot. Its fine when warm/cold. And wot is mostly good. Could this indicate a fuel mix problem? (Jets, vac leak, etc) I’ve went up & down in main jet size but the nature of the problem remains exactly same. (#145 main/ 40 idle)
I know its hard (Impossible!)to diagnose over the net, but I’m just looking for suggestions. It has a 32mm carb, k&n air filter, & stainless exhaust.(stock cdi) Plug reading looks textbook (medium-dark gray) Gasoline is fresh, gas filter is new.
Could a petcock be restricting fuel flow? Wouldn’t that happen at wot also? Can this be checked?
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Post by 926am on Apr 28, 2018 5:32:33 GMT -5
Also carb is 32mm model.
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Post by 926am on Apr 27, 2018 16:07:34 GMT -5
My ‘not-that-stock’ cf250 has to have the throttle bliped to keep running when cold. I’ve switched to a manual choke but the problem has persisted. It runs awesome when warmed up, plug is never fouled or baked. Valves have been adjusted as well as idle and fuel mixture. I was not able to find any vac leaks. I have a k & n air filter and a performance stainless exhaust system. Jets are 130/38. Could this just be a symptom of the mods? Are there any components on the carb that I can inspect? (I’ve noticed a long rod in the fuel bowl area that seems to be integral to the choke/enricher circuit) Sta-bil fuel additive is being used, could it be that? (Fuel is fresh) Thoughts???
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Post by 926am on Apr 23, 2018 20:05:10 GMT -5
How many turns of the mixture screw until the idle jet gets changed? I was 7 turns out so I changed idle jet (from 35 to 38) & now I’m at 5 turns. Was thinking of going to 40. Thoughts?
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