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Post by scooter on Apr 11, 2015 7:26:00 GMT -5
Actually the ramps must be steeper, but I'm still getting good belt climb considering how easy my rpms are climbing. Here is a pic . take into consideration that this variator has pretty much no dead zone " that is the flat part before the ramp starts " , so its dropping really low compared to the other variators. The belt climb is just about the same as with the koso tuned in to top performance . I'm not there yet with the K&S. It looks like you have a little room up at the outside of the variator. If heavier weights don't get your RPMs down then I think you might consider shortening your boss a little. You could use a heavier clutch main spring to resist the climb, but if your belt wont go to the top of the variator, I see no way for your RPMs to come down at top speed other than to close the gap between the variator pulleys one way or another. I'd find the biggest weights I could get and if they don't slow down your top speed RPMs then you know you have to do something to close the gap. This shows us there is a market for different diameter rollers. It would be super if you could just buy rollers that are slightly larger in diameter. That being said, you could try sliders. They seem to increase the range of the variator over what a roller can do. I know some people say they "flip" but that would indicate that there was some point in their running when the variator was not being held tight against the sliders, allowing them room to jiggle themselves into a new position. That would also point to the need for a tighter main clutch spring. What really matters for top end speed is how high the rollers can actually go. I found on my scoot that light weights opened the variator just as much as heavy ones. They were all heavy enough to fully open the variator. Changing the weights just changed my acceleration RPM and the RPM required to hold the variator open, but didn't change my top speed. You can cut the boss 1mm for every 2mm radius you have left until you hit the highest point you want your belt to ride. It's actually closer to 1.75, but 2 is a good round number, so if you have 2mm radius to climb then you can cut 1mm off of the boss. Chances are that if you cut the boss you can keep your weights low. That will allow you to tune your acceleration and cruising RPM with the weights, while the boss length will determine your RPMs at top speed by allowing your belt to go to the maximum height you want, thus taking maximum power from the engine. As you know, if the belt goes too high, the engine may not be able to pull it, and you end up with a situation like I had, where even the lightest weights I could find would not allow me to rev high enough to get my top speed because my variator was too fat. I was going to shim it but I tried some sliders and they let the variator open a little more. What would be ideal is if you could cut the boss to make the belt go all the way up, then have some 1/10th mm shims handy to bring it back down if you needed to. If you had a lathe you could just chop the boss off 1/10th of a mm at a time until you were happy with the performance. This is a fine balance between the HP of each motor and the variator dimensions. There's nothing wrong with shims. They are just another tool in our toolbox, like weights and springs, that we can use to tune our variators to match our engines and gearing. That reminds me of yet another option. You could up your gears. And another option, adjusting the variator face angle. At any rate, adjusting the boss is easier, cheaper, and more tune-able. Me, I'd try the heaviest weights I could find, and if the RPMs were still too high, I'd shorten the boss by the calculation above, and if I went too short, shim the boss until I liked the overall RPM curve. It's cheap and highly tune-able that way. With a shorter boss and 1/10th mm to 1 mm shims you could try dozens of configurations for just a few dollars and it should work to your satisfaction. You'll get the max speed via the boss length, and the acceleration and cruising RPMs you want via the weights. (I just saw your post about up gearing. I look forward to seeing how it comes out!)
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Post by scooter on Apr 11, 2015 5:05:25 GMT -5
Well so much for finishing tuning my K&S variator tonight. I was on a test run with 14 gram weights in " rpms finally came down a little but still too high " I was cresting a hill at around 7000 rpms and nearly 50 mph , next thing I see was a beast of a deer crossing about 20 ft in front of me. I hit the deer dead center and pretty much stopped dead, flew to the right and sorta hit and rolled . I did have time to grab both brakes and slow down to I'm guessing around 35 to 40 mph . luckily my scoot drove back , but with some busted plastic , broken headlight lens , Colling fan scoop and side engine shield busted off ,and a broken front brake lever. I have a sore and scraped up knee , luckily I had my helmet on , I felt it hit the ground. My right hand is scraped up and sore. But all and all I think I'm fine . my knee is starting to really hurt but I think its OK. I'll post some pics of the scoot in a bit , I have to get some ice for my knee. I'm sorry to hear about your misfortune, Geh. I'm glad you're not broken too badly. Like bad drivers, deer are so random. You never know when they'll get you. Get well soon, friend.
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Post by scooter on Apr 11, 2015 4:57:05 GMT -5
I had bad vibration from a clutch with pieces of one of the inner pads broken off. You could really feel it when you got up around 60mph. It was out of balance of course, and a new clutch did the trick. Well I feel the vibration at all ranges, but when maintaining a speed for longer than a few seconds it stops vibrating and picks up leaving me to believe that it does work, just not properly. But maintaining any speed for longer than a few seconds is hard in the city, mostly stop and go with some stretches of pavement here and there. As I recall my bike also went through a vibration at low speed then smoothed out until I got to high speed. It's definitely worth pulling the clutch apart for a look.
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Post by scooter on Apr 10, 2015 20:45:07 GMT -5
So The other day I removed and replaced the variator slides because they had broke. Now it seems the clutch may have been the culprit all along. When I am trying to rev up it feels like I am not getting any power until I have gotten some speed up or I am going downhill. I also hear a whining noise come from the CVT area when slowing down and stopping and it feels like I am being slowed down when I hear the whine noise and as soon as the whine noise stops the resistance I feel that feels like it is slowing down the scoot goes away and my wheels move freely. I am thinking something obviously isn't working like it SHOULD. The clutch seems to spin when moving the back wheel and it is hard to remove from the shaft, I have to pry it off with a screwdriver. Bad clutch bearings? I have another clutch in my parts bin, practically new. The one I am currently using is the clutch that came with the scoot from the factory way back in 2011. It has 1.5k yellow springs I installed, so I am thinking I will just take the good springs out and put them in my spare clutch. What do you guys think, bad clutch? I am going to take a look at the cvt again tomorrow, see if there's any other issues, I think the slides broke again because the vibration issue came back when the power issue arose, and I can hear screeching come from the CVT when I accelerate from stop, though that could be the clutch bell because it is smooth. I had bad vibration from a clutch with pieces of one of the inner pads broken off. You could really feel it when you got up around 60mph. It was out of balance of course, and a new clutch did the trick.
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Post by scooter on Apr 10, 2015 18:26:11 GMT -5
Awesome job on the thread bro!,,Im sure i will need this info someday Thanks, Jersey. I was really bummed out when I took my first scooter home and started finding loose panels and stripped screw holes all over it. The body was barely holding together. The previous owner really did a number on it. I used this technique and the one I'll describe later to make the scooter like new again. It's a good feeling knowing your is tight.
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Post by scooter on Apr 10, 2015 17:15:01 GMT -5
How to repair broken screw sockets on broken plastic scooter body panels. This is an easy way to fix broken screw sockets on plastic scooter body panels using plastic welding compound and masking tape. Here's the part that needs fixing. Only the last little bit of threads are left of the socket. 1) Prepare the area. I break off any broken bits of screw socket and then clean the area with acetone and a shop towel. Then I put the screw in what is left of the socket. If there is nothing to put the screw into, then I just make the socket and drill it out when I am done. The drill should be about the size of the body of the screw, not including the threads. 2) Next I make a "mold" out of ordinary masking tape, leaving a little room around the screw for the wall thickness of the new socket. 3) Next I mix a bit of plastic welding compound, sold at hardware and auto shops. I prefer the generic brand. The JB Weld brand was soft. The generic brand came out very nice and hard. I use a flat stick to shove the compound down into the mold. It is okay if you distort the mold. Just make it the shape you want after putting the compound in. 4) After letting the compound harden, about 5 to 10 minutes, peel off the tape and see how you did. Remove the screw. It is going to be really stuck in there so be careful not to break your new socket. Twist the screw back and forth until it comes loose, holding the new socket tightly. You may be able to lube your screw before pouring your mold with some bar soap or something, but I didn't want to chance contaminating my mold so I did not lube the screw. If you couldn't leave the screw in the mold, now is the time to drill out your new socket. The hole should be about the size of the screw body, not including the threads, as mentioned above. If you're doing a screw socket out in the open, just make your mold round. It doesn't have to be perfect. You're done. Now your body is tight again! Your scooter body that is. I hope you found this useful. Next time I'll show you how to repair broken tabs and slots on body panels using a similar method that is stronger than new! Happy Scooting!
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Post by scooter on Apr 10, 2015 16:10:21 GMT -5
Well the back is starting to fall apart from the heavy headwinds..going to have to superglue it back together. The only other worry I have now is that I made a kind of bad investment in the cheap scooter since I couldn't afford anything else. Do the engines really rattle themselves to death at 2k Miles or 2k KM? If so..that means in my car I would have spent $268 in gas..which is nothing compared to the $1300 I spent financing the scooter..and the muffler is rattling off too..lol.. I was wondering if there's ways to get a LOT more life out of it, or if there's things we can replace so it actually lasts long enough to pay for itself. I Drive 7.7 miles to work 1 way..so that's a minimum of 14 miles a day..which equals to about 66 days before dead engine..though I've been driving it a lot more than that (409km today on the odo) and it's just got me kind of in a funk if it's really going to finish falling apart around 3628KM I can't speak for TaoTao scoots but I had one with over 3,000 miles on it and it ran great, I have another one with over 7,000 mile on it and it runs great, I have another one that the first number isn't showing and I think it has about 14K or 24K on it and it runs fine, and I see them online in the twenties so I wouldn't believe what you've heard about them dying at 2,000 miles. The body panels are cheap. I've been meaning to post a tutorial on how to fix them better than new.
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Post by scooter on Apr 10, 2015 15:55:28 GMT -5
I've been wondering, what's the word for when a motorcyclist reaches a top speed then just excessively revs it in idle or something making tons of popping and high revving noises you can hear WAAY down the road. All the kids with sports bikes around my town have been doing it a lot. They will get to high speeds and while at that speed just start making tons of popping and revving noises as they glide down the road. Why do they do that anyways, is that not harmful to thier nice engines? o.o Young people love power and noise, be it engines, stereos, TVs, fireworks, you name it. I liked stuff like that well into my 30s and then one day I'd had my fill of it and I was officially old. I don't even shoot fireworks on the 4th anymore. The thrill is gone.
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Moto slang
by: scooter - Apr 10, 2015 15:49:04 GMT -5
Post by scooter on Apr 10, 2015 15:49:04 GMT -5
I do have to wonder if the guy in the video was acting for the show. My scoot does fit in the garage and only comes out on nice days. But he's not under cover and all waxed and shined and babied. Although he is always plugged into the Battery Tender Jr. So is he or isn't he a garage queen? >'Kat I am sure he was encouraged to ham it up!
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Moto slang
by: scooter - Apr 10, 2015 4:08:08 GMT -5
Post by scooter on Apr 10, 2015 4:08:08 GMT -5
Don't remember where I read it somewhere before, but rolling speed-bump was a reference to scooters/mopeds in heavy traffic. It might have been in some articles about all the scooter traffic in one or more of the Asian countries thinking about it now, but I can't be certain. Seems like there was more than just one reference...The idea of that kind of stuck in my head like mentions of how we perceive ourselves as basically being invisible on the roads. Darkside (here in the states anyway) is the use of a car tire on the rear of a motorcycle/scooter.... (that is something I do to my scooters) Asphalt surfing is a new one to me, but road rash might have been included with that. Oh, and guys like the squid in the video have been called organ donors. Thanks. Organ donor! I like that! It fits better than squid.
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Moto slang
by: scooter - Apr 9, 2015 15:29:11 GMT -5
Post by scooter on Apr 9, 2015 15:29:11 GMT -5
I thought sure "cager" would be in there.... Maybe "darkside", "poser", "rolling speedbump", "garage queen" or "riding b-i-t-c-h" had possibility of making the list.... but maybe that was a list that pertained more to the "crotch rocket jockeys". What do Darkside and Rolling speedbump mean? I looked up rolling speedbump but all I got was a story about a mom who threw herself behind her car to save her kids from rolling into the street. abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/03/mom-lies-down-as-speed-bump-to-save-daughters-in-rolling-car/
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Post by scooter on Apr 9, 2015 15:15:25 GMT -5
She asked me how big was my scooter, and I said its a small bike...."OK 50cc" ... I'm like.... Ok.. and even though someone may have a 50 cc scooter... What if you want to upgrade the engine to a 150cc? Around here the 50s seem to sell for about the same prices as 150s. I'd sell the 50 and buy a 150. I'd feel better knowing my frame was made for the horsepower and speed I'm getting.
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Post by scooter on Apr 9, 2015 15:12:00 GMT -5
"Scootie", my Titan Motors MP150, had dual disks. It had the disk on the muffler side in the rear with a standard gy6 motor. I now have the 250 version of it which is set up the same way and has an oversized disk in the front.
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Post by scooter on Apr 7, 2015 15:29:05 GMT -5
Ok ordered the extra belt.. Wait... You have insurance? Aren't those expensive? I was thinking to get just roadside assistance instead. It's about 1,000 per year. 80% is insurance on myself in case of injury, the rest is on the bike for collision, fire, theft, vandalism, etc. We pay liability here so if you don't cover yourself, and you are hit and the person runs or does not have insurance, or you just crash like into a tree, then you are responsible for your own medical bills. That's why I carry coverage both on the bike and myself. If it's totaled then they'll pay you for the value of the scooter.
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Post by scooter on Apr 6, 2015 20:00:16 GMT -5
EEEW!!! Gives a whole different meaning to "BITE ME" Tough call...... Donner party (NOTHING like a birthday party mind you) had to get where they got on foot. The rugby team got a nice quick airplane flight to their perch up in the mountains... So I'll vote Donner. Dinner is served!!........ say.... where is George?.... Dunno, next door probably. The Breens are having him for dinner I think .... This manwich stuff tastes funny.... Not ha ha funny.... just really weird. Hey! where's the beef?
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