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Post by dollartwentyfive on Sept 15, 2017 23:30:45 GMT -5
the fact remains, and i'll repeat it until the day i die, rotating machinery is dangerous.
check out some of these videos:
granted, most scooters do not have the horsepower of a farm tractor, but i gaurentee you that NO ONE is going to willingly stick their hands into an open faced clutch while it is operating.
there are other, less dangerous ways of keeping your CVT cool.
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Sept 15, 2017 22:30:53 GMT -5
Kymco agility 125 It's an old style mechanical needle type fuel gauge. these are usually referred to as analog gauges as opposed to the newer digital type. the mechanical type you mentioned has the gauge built into the gas cap and has its own float |
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Dirty Dawgs
by: dollartwentyfive - Sept 15, 2017 22:12:35 GMT -5
Post by dollartwentyfive on Sept 15, 2017 22:12:35 GMT -5
let me guess, they are out selling you.
after a quick search i found 4 reviews of top dog scooters of athens ga. and all of them favorable.
the BBB has received no complaints about this dealer.
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Sept 14, 2017 22:10:59 GMT -5
Oh, my bad, I did fail to address your question "is rotating machinery dangerous" The question is so general itself its a no brainer, unarguable fact, Potentially, Yes. potentially, as in "it depends", right? running without a cover is entirely your choice, but there could be some obscure laws on the books in the various states that might prohibit it. i know machine shops can be given hefty fines for running lathes and such without their covers. |
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Sept 13, 2017 21:42:54 GMT -5
Well ol Buck and a Quarter, I went out again and sat on my scoot with my ankle biter and have to do some Cirque de Cile contortions to get any part of my body over and under the bodywork to get a toe in my faceless vary.. just not realistic. yes, the variator is somewhat protected by the floorboard. my main concern is the clutch. secure some long leather thongs to your belt. then do the hula in front of your clutch. keep in mind the scoot is probably idling and producing nothing near its rated output. some don't. and i bet almost all of them was due to someones negligence. BTW, you failed to answer the question of "is rotating machinery dangerous". |
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Sept 12, 2017 20:11:48 GMT -5
You allowed this to happen !? That is extremely dangerous! i know. it's the reason i installed passenger pegs. the "foot pegs" on my scoot consisted of a 2 1/2 inch extension of the floorboard. my passenger had to pull their feet inward (toward each other) to even keep their feet (toes actually) on them. in essence, they were completely useless as "foot pegs". remarkably the fix was pretty simple, a section of 2 inch diameter wooden dowel passed through the body and u-clamped to the frame. yes, i know, it's the reason i installed foot pegs. my scoot didn't have an airbox until i purchased, and installed one. i only lost 2 bolts (that i'm aware of), one of them just happened to be a muffler mounting bolt, the other was a swing arm to engine bolt. |
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Sept 12, 2017 17:26:39 GMT -5
Farmers don't Fall into PTO shafts they Step over them, and wrapped up they get.. there are some that have fallen out of their seats when they turned around to check the shaft. most however are like you said, they were out of the seat, off the tractor. a person only needs to search on "PTO shaft deaths" to get a picture. of course. you are also bullet proof and immortal, right? i'll admit, i've never seen anyone in a "flowing dress" on a scoot. but you, of all people, KNOWS EXACTLY what i am talking about. frankly i'm surprised you would advocate running without a CVT cover. i imagine that i've got about 500,000 miles under my belt, and i've NEVER experienced a passenger car tire blowing off the rim. split ring rims are a different story, and yes, they too can be deadly. BTW, i defer all my tire changes to a B&M shop. yes, i change my own flat tires, but i use either a scissors or hydraulic jack, chock my tires appropriately and don't put anything but my hands in harms way. i carry a concrete block and a few bricks expressly for the task. like i said, i'm surprised that you are even advocated running without a CVT cover. it makes me wonder about your honesty. if i asked you "is rotating machinery dangerous?" you will no doubt say "it depends". with that, i rest my case. so kiddies, let's hope your "depends" is in order. |
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Sept 11, 2017 20:08:34 GMT -5
I'm afraid I have to interject myself into the foray,,, I'm in the camp that more than half of the lawsuits involving moving machinery and injury was actually caused by the " victim/ injured",,, by getting themselves into moving parts of a mechanism,,, common sense says don't doit but done anyways,,, who's at fault? well yes cyborg, the victim gets into the machinery, and it's usually an accident. how in the world do farmers fall into their own PTO shafts? or get run over by the tractors they are driving? it's really easy for me or you to criticize people for getting stuck in machinery BECAUSE WE KNOW THE DANGERS. once you realize that you aren't supposed to stick your face in a fan you understand that. i really don't feel like arguing the point anymore. if you want to imply unprotected rotating machinery is safe, then you go right on ahead. i'll be the first to step to the plate and say, YOU ARE DEAD WRONG DUDE. how can someone get hurt by your open faced CVT? before i put passenger pegs on my scoot, my passenger had to used the muffler for the right foot, and the CVT case for the left. i can just see their left foot slipping off. the perfect scenario would be their pant leg gets caught, makes a half turn of the clutch, then gets spit out. the situation gets progressively worse the baggier the clothes to where flowing dresses can cause you some serious injury. would you really mow your grass with just an engine and a blade? |
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Sept 11, 2017 13:13:07 GMT -5
Hu So dollartwentyfi you like to make unsupported correlations And imply someone that disagrees with you is evil Hay you know who else does that the Nazi i'm sorry you feel that way and it wasn't my intention. if you want to run without a CVT cover, that's fine too. doing so however is irresponsible and negligent. to use the chainsaw scenario, it would be like giving that chainsaw to a pack of 10 year olds. sure, chainsaws are relatively harmless in the hands of an experienced user, newbies however can find themselves in a deadly situation. running without a cover is on your shoulders, not mine. |
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Sept 11, 2017 8:49:34 GMT -5
Dollar I appreciate the info so don't take offense to what I'm about to say. Also I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers here but not much of what you said makes sense to me. How would anyone get injured from an open cvt? I could see maybe the clutch bell coming off and maybe hitting someone but that would be like worrying your wheel is going to come off of your car and going to go thru someone's house or hit a pedestrian. Can it happen? Yes it could. Could the brake line blow out and you run your car thru a crosswalk full of kids? Yes it could. As far as getting my pant leg in my variator, I wouldn't worry about that to much. I assume you've never rode an old pan or shovel with an open primary and foot clutch. If or I should say when it happens it spits it out fast but I've never been hurt by it. I'm not sure I understand the cvt as part of the intake. Are you talking about warming the air before it enters the carb? I'm not understanding how this would be a good idea either but I'm very interested in learning your theory behind it. Like I said I'm not trying to ruffle your feathers. I just don't share your feelings on most of this. the choice is yours to run without a cover. just like it's your choice to drink and drive. unprotected rotating machinery is dangerous (ALWAYS be aware of that), even deadly if it has enough horsepower behind it. my CVT got so hot i couldn't keep my hand on it for a second, but i solved it, without removing the cover. i'm not sure if warming the air would have any benefits other than maybe helping on the problem of running lean. |
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Sept 8, 2017 10:06:31 GMT -5
fullfaced helmets just makes a lot of sense.
some of the newer ones look pretty cool too.
of course, fit is as important as the helmet itself.
buy your helmet from a brick and mortar motorcycle shop, that way you can get a properly fitted helmet.
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Sept 7, 2017 10:57:30 GMT -5
scrappydog scooters or parts for scooters.
both are reputable and both have been in the business for 10 years or longer.
both offer excellent service and a reasonable return policy.
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Aug 29, 2017 22:19:29 GMT -5
Now the quality and thickness of the plastic varied quite a bit depending on the manufacturer but they were all styrene and that cement should work. yeah, that's probably it. plus the design of the mounting points. i know the panels on my 250 were pretty brittle. they never got to the zip tie stage but they were getting close. ah zip ties, probably the greatest invention since baling wire and duct tape. |
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Aug 29, 2017 12:46:28 GMT -5
So should I try a 842 belt? I'm running the 835 now yes, that would be the right direction to go. keep in mind that this will be a "try it and see" type of thing, sort of like finding the right roller/contra spring combo. also, do not operate your scooter with exposed CVT parts. doing so is irresponsible and opens you to all manner of lawsuits if someone is injured by your negligence. drill numerous holes in the case instead. another idea would be to make the CVT a part of the intake. this has 2 advantages, it cools the CVT and it warms the incoming air. the drawback is all of the rubber particles from the belt, how to filter these out. please, for your safety and that of others, think before you decide to run without a CVT cover. i can just imagine putting my foot down at the next stop sign, only to have my pant leg sucked into the variator. you WILL get hurt, so will your passenger if you have one. |
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Aug 29, 2017 12:26:21 GMT -5
All painted scooter Tupperware is made from ABS plastic. are you sure about that? i owned 2 scooters and one of them was constructed from an entirely different plastic than the other. the plastic panels on my 250 was certainly styrene. it broke too easily, especially the mounting tabs. |
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