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Post by JR on Mar 9, 2013 23:46:53 GMT -5
Plug it back up and it's common for wire colors to change from one end of the plug to the other, Chinese way of doing things. Ok you did for sure find the R/R up at the front of the scooter and this means you have the headlight/s unplugged which is good. We don't want to blow the bulbs.
Get your meter out, set it to AC volts 100ac on the scale,
Unplug the R/R
Start the scooter
Test the voltage on the white wire to ground, write done the reading
Test the yellow wire to ground, write down the reading.
Do this at idle and about 3k RPM's and this will tell us if the stator is putting out like it should. If it is and you find no bad wires or connections going to the R/R then it's time to replace it.
JR
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Post by JR on Mar 9, 2013 21:19:59 GMT -5
On the right track, your other pictures didn't show up. I know what the other wires are to and was this plug plugged into a female one?
Yellow and white go to the R/R and blue/white goes to CDI.
JR
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Post by JR on Mar 9, 2013 20:26:35 GMT -5
Here is what I took for pictures. I'm not sure where these lead to. The scoot starts and runs. Just isn't charging the battery from what I can see. Yellow, blue/white and white are the colors Yellow white = stator wires going to regulator/rectifier (R/R) what I think you have confused with CDI. There will be other wires going to CDI. Did you unplug it from something that looked similar to this?  Now you need to test the AC voltage on the yellow and white wire to ground with a meter. You can do this with just the engine turning over, not running. Also what make, model and size is this scooter? JR |
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Post by JR on Mar 9, 2013 19:50:33 GMT -5
Very good place to start and especially check it where the negative battery cable hooks to the frame. Fuse, did you check for a inline fuse off of the battery, lights run off of the stator so this is a voltage problem from the battery part of the system.
JR
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Post by JR on Mar 9, 2013 19:46:55 GMT -5
Battery is a brand new 12v, 9AH battery. One thing that I noticed is that there is only 3 wires that appear to come from the the engine. One's blue/white, one white and the other yellow I believe. Means nothing, did you test the voltage with a meter, if battery is low so will the charging. Should have four wires Bl/W, white, yellow and black/red. Green is ground and could be coming from the frame to the R/R where the black negative battery cable hooks up. No ground from stator means floating ground. Need to check battery charge with your meter. JR |
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Post by JR on Mar 9, 2013 19:07:13 GMT -5
I've read through all of this and two things stand out 99& of 50cc and 150CC scooters DO NOT have a DC type CDI. Just because it may or may not have a kill wire in that position of any color doesn't automatically mean DC. Some scooters run the kill wire to the coil feed wire between the CDI and coil and you'll never see it unless you open up the harness. Diagram of 6 and 8 coil outputs. The other thing that stands out is it is the standard wire color for a AC type CDI and unless he tells me he has 3 yellow wires going to the R/R from the stator and only one other wire that would be the pick up or pulse coil wire then it's not 3 phase.  Now forget measuring voltage from the CDI to the sparkplug coil, they are all different and measure all over the place, with a CDI it is either good or bad, you said you tested the coil on another scooter and it ran so it's not the coil. Now take note of the wire placements on the CDI  So we have; a good pulse signal voltage a good AC CDI feed voltage good coil Only one more thing to check, has anyone mentioned kill switch in run position? Also if it does have a kill wire going to the coil wire feed it could be grounding/ed out? Know this sounds dumb, but have you made sure the sparkplug is good? With a good AC type CDI if all is what he says it should run unless any of the other things are present? Also did you buy this scooter used and is it possible someone tampered with the wiring? Also does this scooter have a kick starter? JR |
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Post by JR on Mar 9, 2013 18:30:11 GMT -5
Yes and no. If it runs voltage to the CDI has nothing to do with charging so that's not an issue. Now first thing is have you checked to see if you have a fully charged battery? By fully charged I mean if you slow charge it for 3 to 5 hours, let it sit for one hour after charging it reads a minimum of 12.5Vdc or better? If this is the case then at idle it should read 13.0Vdc+ and go up to around 14.0Vdc at 5k RPM. If not then yes you need to check the stator and here's what you'll be looking for: |
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Post by JR on Mar 7, 2013 22:57:27 GMT -5
This thread has ran it's course and it serves nothing now to keep on.  JR |
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Post by JR on Mar 7, 2013 20:21:19 GMT -5
At this point I have not received the news letter email and I am a member but my account is registered under a yahoo email account and I've seen it take 2 or 3 days to come, don't ask me why? I'll not get upset over it, I am a member so I would think it would go out on the member roster there. If you have made the concerns known to Mike then let's hope by all means he takes your suggestion under consideration and only emails the current membership at his forum to date. JR Hi JR I shall make it a priority, andi m sure he will as im a moderator there now and would hope he listens to and accepts his staffs suggestions Im also suggesting to him that when he does send an email out to any one that it includes the option of being removed from the mailing list Take care and ride safely dear friend Yours Hank Hank I read your post on the Newsletter thread and it appears that it has been deleted. JR |
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Post by JR on Mar 7, 2013 20:01:41 GMT -5
Terrilee you need to take that up with dawg.net. This thread was about unwanted emails and I understand your frustration but that matter is between you and them.
JR
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Post by JR on Mar 7, 2013 19:42:47 GMT -5
It's not an issue to me either but for the OP he simply voiced that he got an email even though he wasn't a member and he didn't see that as good, his right to his opinion.
Now as far as it is the same thing that was done over at the old site, I totally disagree from several stand points, not bashing the other forum but stating it as I see it.
One if the link and email that was sent by Doug letting everyone know that dawg.com was moving was to members only at dawg.com and wasn't in any way sending out any information dealing with another forum or it's members. You may say that members here are there too and that's true but I'm sure they have some new members that have never been here on the old site so the email that was sent to the members of dawg.com didn't go to or have any effect on those members. We moved from a no choice situation with permission rather than moving because of the reasons set forth by others who got all of this started. Totally different.
You say it was only a news letter so the news letter should be sent to the members at dawg.net and not to non-members of that forum. I myself would not send a news letter from this site to other members there except members that had the same email address here as over there. The news letter from net is reaching members here that are not members at dawg.net and some are voicing the fact they don't want the emails at all from dawg.net.
Lastly Mike has mentioned on several occasions that the software used by his forum is better so it should be very easy to just send it to only his actual members. If some don't mind the news letter than that's their choice and right but for those that don't want it he is just like all the people who send out the annoying spam emails on Yahoo and correct me if I'm wrong, didn't he say that spam was a big issue with a Proboards forum?
JR
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Post by JR on Mar 7, 2013 14:02:19 GMT -5
At this point I have not received the news letter email and I am a member but my account is registered under a yahoo email account and I've seen it take 2 or 3 days to come, don't ask me why?
I'll not get upset over it, I am a member so I would think it would go out on the member roster there. If you have made the concerns known to Mike then let's hope by all means he takes your suggestion under consideration and only emails the current membership at his forum to date.
JR
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Post by JR on Mar 7, 2013 13:16:18 GMT -5
Hank I don't think what Shalomrider was in any way bashing the other forum but merely what he got in his email. Since he said he is not a member there then his information is correct, the only way they could know his email is to have the list of emails that is/was on the old Scootdawg.com.
Now according to the rules of a proboards forum this is considered spamming for members. You did mention rules and I'm sure they have a like rule as all forums do so his statement of not good IMO applies.
I'm not arguing here but simply stating the facts and until now I don't believe there has been any mention here of dawg.net so no bashing, and if I'm wrong please correct me and we do not want to bash any other forums either and if I or Doug have to incorporate that in the rules here I'm sure we can.
All of what happened is water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned but I am going to agree with his statement of the emailing old dawg members is not a good thing and could have privacy issues considering what did happen IMO.
I am going to check my email for this too.
JR
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Post by JR on Mar 7, 2013 9:39:30 GMT -5
Got sunshine today and 55 going to work outside today!  JR |
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Post by JR on Mar 6, 2013 20:12:39 GMT -5
What? What? Buttons? When I worked and worked to put your cheerleader in?   Absolutely 100%   Time for  and some  JR |
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