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lower it?
by: rockinez - Mar 20, 2014 15:38:58 GMT -5
Post by rockinez on Mar 20, 2014 15:38:58 GMT -5
I have to ask why lower a scooter. It is not a '57 Chevy, and only has 6" to 8" ground clearance on a good day.
Take a usable machine and make it so it can't clear a speed bump or a large rock?
What am I missing? Is there an attraction to lowered scoots.... I don't think so, but am usually wrong.
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Post by rockinez on Mar 20, 2014 15:18:30 GMT -5
Most riders get the "big hurt" in the first or second year. After that they become more careful, or just give it up.
1949 from tricycles to motorcycles/scooters with no accidents is either very lucky, or an act of God. Everyone goes down. Bottom line - it happens. I have skittered my butt across the freeway in L.A. more than once. It always hurt... and cost big time.
I have been on a motorcycle since 1968, and I have crashed, or been hit in 3 big incidents, and too many small incidents to mention.
I have to cry... WEAR YOUR GEAR! Don't listen to this guy. You are not always lucky, and very few incidents are caused by the rider. It is cheap, and does work.
New riders should consider that every male member of my family but me has metal parts in their body due to motorcycle accidents. I don't have metal parts, but have survived flying over a Dodge and several other things I had no control over.
Wear the gear and go home safe.
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Post by rockinez on Mar 20, 2014 15:02:40 GMT -5
It is bad on several people. Your family 1st, your friends, then your boss.
Also consider the people that have to put you back together, if you live. It takes a toll on ER personnel. They are not robots. They hate hurting people for a living. I did it for years.....
I scrubbed a lot of gravel out of what used to be skin in an ER. Ever see anyone coming at you with one of those blue sponges with bristles on the other side? You will not forget it.
I have a butt burn from the '80s that still pushes pieces of road tar to the surface 30+ year later.
Good gear is not uncomfortable, or expensive.
Spare yourself, and your family the problems of dealing with bad decisions.
The guys here talked me into ankle/foot protection.
Let us talk you into dressing safely before you scoot.
Skin is our largest organ, we need it to keep the coodies out. Keep yours intact if at all possible.
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Post by rockinez on Mar 20, 2014 14:38:44 GMT -5
Agreed. We share a lot of amazing information on these scoot sites. The insurance problems and liability law suits have prevented those in business from taking chances like this for the most part. You can still find a friendly face on occasion.
I was on a 125 Bridgestone 2 stroke 60 miles from home with no money (don't ask). I had plenty of gas, but my oil was running dry. I pulled off at a Yamaha shop, and offered to leave my 2nd helmet as collateral for a quart of oil. They gave me the oil... I sent them $20 when I got home.
Believe it or not, the VW community still has spots like that also.
I rebuilt a '62 on a blue tarp in Coalinga CA in the lot behind a VW garage.
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Post by rockinez on Mar 20, 2014 13:44:18 GMT -5
One thing worth mentioning is the Harley family in the '60's, that only partially exists now. If you rode a Harley then, you were automatically included. You did not find too many Doctors and Dentists as weekenders in those days.
My dad had a lot out back of his shop. Those that made it to town in the '60s needing Harley repairs, but had no money were free to camp and fix. He had a pile of used, but still usable parts if you couldn't afford to really fix your machine. He would provide a canvas tarp and tools.... sometimes parts and beer, depending on if he liked you or not. Everybody ate, no question of that. There was a cookout every night in the summer. He did a lot of 200 mile repairs..... "This will get you 200 miles, if you push it to 201, you are going to mess up that {insert relevant part here}". You will never see that at a dealership. We were about 5 miles off Hwy 66 in the Panhandle of Texas. The next town that had parts was..... no place near.
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Post by rockinez on Mar 20, 2014 11:45:49 GMT -5
Same experience as nulldevice.
Someone gets hurt every ride.
It was fun for a couple of runs, but the group mentality is not a good thing for safe riding.
After the cops started showing up at the rides, I dropped out.
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Post by rockinez on Mar 20, 2014 4:09:59 GMT -5
OK.... so they won't sell here. Wacko expensive.
If you can buy a car or a scooter for the same price.... think about the car. Just a thought.
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Post by rockinez on Mar 20, 2014 2:05:50 GMT -5
Take this with how ever many grains of salt as it is a second hand story from my father. Harley had it's undocumented changes in their younger years.....
Harley guys please say if this is true or not.
My dad was working as a mechanic at a Harley dealership in his early days (He was vintage 1912) and Milwaukee factory trained.
As the story goes, it was common practice to check the oil on a running engine in early Harley 45 cubic inch engines by sticking your finger in the oil fill hole. At one point the lack of oil circulation on hills caused Harley to place an oil circulating fan in the engine.
A geezer working the same place my dad worked stuck his finger in one of these new engines, while running to check the oil volume. The new, an as yet undocumented circulating fan neatly removed the first joint of his finger.
Story told to me... I did not experience, and do not even know the year the engines changed. Just a story from my dad to indicate the manual does not include all new changes......
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Post by rockinez on Mar 20, 2014 1:53:54 GMT -5
If you are not into the mechanical thing I go with have it fixed and sell it.
If you like scooters buy a name brand.
No shame in being defeated by a China scoots needs.
My 2008 (bad year) has brought me down many a day, and I grew up in a garage. Eventually I do troubleshoot and diagnose the issue, but I have been doing this for 40 years on normal machines (American and English), and China scoots still strain my brain at times.
Sometimes it is good to cut and run.
Your call.
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Post by rockinez on Mar 20, 2014 1:43:57 GMT -5
I hate realizing the screaming is coming from me!
Better to avoid that.
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Post by rockinez on Mar 19, 2014 22:13:00 GMT -5
They build for toughness. They live in an environment that presents more challenges. Wish they made one with CARB certs (California Air Resources Board). The have different certs, and could care less about the U.S. which is too bad. I personally believe those you are in cahoots with (business for those of you in the UK) are less likely to fight. I am all in for honest business with the Russians.
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Post by rockinez on Mar 19, 2014 22:08:10 GMT -5
I am buying boots...... better to be safe. Have everything else, no reason to get my ankle bone ground off. Your feet don't work without it.
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Post by rockinez on Mar 19, 2014 0:09:56 GMT -5
Yes, prime the pump. Here is a link that may help. It is a 150cc GY6 oil pump issue with how to test the pump in the second post.
buggynews.com/post420002.html
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Post by rockinez on Mar 19, 2014 0:01:07 GMT -5
Is straining out the elephants really an oil filtration system, then I guess the GY6 has a filtration system.
I look at it more as a chunk collector.
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Post by rockinez on Mar 18, 2014 21:58:34 GMT -5
More red motorcycles and scooters are involved in accidents than other colors.
I bought a red scooter and helmet to be visible.
I am hoping red is not the death color, just the color most guys that like to ride fast chose. Most of those guys don't last too long before their first "big hurt".
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