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Post by lykos23 on May 28, 2013 19:53:54 GMT -5
[replyingto=hank]hank[/replyingto]Lol, only thanks to you and all the help you and these forums have given me.
Thanks, Hank!
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Post by lykos23 on May 28, 2013 19:42:34 GMT -5
[replyingto=jerseyboy]jerseyboy[/replyingto]I think we're going to have to figure out what size your stock weights are and then we can go from there. Unless somebody else has some suggestions and already knows what size weights you'd have already. It's a somewhat delicate balancing act of acceleration and top speed, lighter vs. heavier, and if you decide to just get some heavy weights it might turn out they're too heavy and they cause your scooter to not even reach its topend like what happened to me when I got 9g sliders. If you want to go ahead and order something ahead of time you may want to order a tuning kit so that you can figure out what weight sliders you want to get after your bike finally arrives. www.scooterworks.com/prima-roller-weight-tuning-kit--6g-to-17g--18x14-products-1936.php#.UaVO4k1jjcc |
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Post by lykos23 on May 28, 2013 19:35:57 GMT -5
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Post by lykos23 on May 28, 2013 18:37:04 GMT -5
If you match your stock weights and replace them with dr. pulley slider weights there's potential that you could achieve speeds higher than you first achieved, while maintaining the same takeoff and acceleration, it'll just take tweaking and finding that perfect sweet spot.
with the right match of weights and springs you could very well have your cake and eat it too.
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Post by lykos23 on May 28, 2013 17:13:12 GMT -5
[replyingto=carpespasm]carpespasm[/replyingto]That's hilarious, I had no idea it was so universal.  So I guess there is no hope that the cheaper speedo puck is somehow more accurate  |
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Post by lykos23 on May 28, 2013 17:09:27 GMT -5
[replyingto=blacraven]blacraven[/replyingto]As Alleyoop said: This also means that heavier weights will push your variator out more allowing the belt to rise higher up. By default all dr. pulley sliders offer the same functionality because of the way they work they cause the belt to rise a bit higher. Here's a video of the variator in action: EDIT: Haha, you beat me to the video, Hank! |
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Post by lykos23 on May 28, 2013 16:24:01 GMT -5
[replyingto=blacraven]blacraven[/replyingto]Well first you need to figure out what roller size you currently have, then you have to figure out whether you want slower acceleration and higher topend OR better acceleration and lower topend.
As Ally stated above each gram represents a difference in rpms. You'll want to go either up or down by one or two grams from the size you have (keeping in mind the difference with sliders meaning you have to add a gram for sliders) and then you should be set.
Dr. Pulley sliders offer higher topend by default so even if you get lighter weights you may still maintain the same topend. Right now I'm testing out my speeds with 4g weights and I can go a max of 39mph (48mph on the chinese speedo), but I weigh a bit more than the average rider, heh.
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Post by lykos23 on May 28, 2013 15:26:50 GMT -5
If my bike with 2k springs doesn't jerk then your bike with 1.5k springs or less shouldn't jerk either  The springs are great for just that, at stoplights I can keep up with the cars whereas before I couldn't at takeoff. Then it took a lot of working on my mid range speeds to keep pace with traffic, and now I'm working on my hi-end speeds so I can excel in traffic. |
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Post by lykos23 on May 28, 2013 14:50:08 GMT -5
I've been waiting to take a better picture, but for now this is the best I got...  |
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Post by lykos23 on May 28, 2013 13:28:09 GMT -5
[replyingto=blacraven]blacraven[/replyingto]That's why I recommended lighter springs such as 1.5k. The clutch will disengage at around 5-10mph (for me it's around 12-13mph) and then the engine will have to be revved until it reengages. But this is only a problem for very low speeds.
I use 2k springs and I love them ;D
no problems for me in actual traffic situations, and I just came home from the library where the afternoon stop n' go traffic was nuts and I had to go just 15mph through half of it, stopping and going.
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Post by lykos23 on May 28, 2013 13:16:53 GMT -5
Jeesh. I'm only 22 and my first and only car is/was a scooter. My insurance is like $120 for a year...  |
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Post by lykos23 on May 28, 2013 12:44:32 GMT -5
If your rollers turn out to be bad then I highly recommend replacing them with some quality Dr. Pulley slider weights. You'll be looking for any wear on them or if they've somehow bent and become oval-ish, they should be perfectly round with no flat spots.
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Post by lykos23 on May 28, 2013 12:16:52 GMT -5
[replyingto=blacraven]blacraven[/replyingto]The spring strength determines at what rpm the clutch engages and the wheel starts spinning. Getting your engine to a higher rpm, approximately 1.5k higher, will give you better takeoff acceleration. It doesn't effect topend but in my opinion it's a great little upgrade.
They sell them everywhere, from scrappydogs to tvnacman's to amazon.
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Post by lykos23 on May 28, 2013 11:55:27 GMT -5
[replyingto=blacraven]blacraven[/replyingto]Your rollers might've become sliders. Check that variator  While you're at it you may be interested in some new clutch springs. The 1.5k seem popular. |
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Post by lykos23 on May 28, 2013 10:00:49 GMT -5
Relaxing for some. The thing of it is once the bugs are worked out, you have a reliable machine that can be repaired fairly easily by someone with the knack and at a fraction of the cost in parts. (Can we say name brand markup?) That's why I prefer family ran shops. They actually care about their customers. The big shops will screw you over every chance they get. As much as I love working on my scooter, when there was a problem I couldn't figure out the local cycle shop offered to fix it for a six pack of pepsi. Gotta love small businesses. |
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