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Post by lykos23 on May 30, 2013 10:40:01 GMT -5
Too true. There's a good song about that:
~I am a baby in my universe. I'll live forever. Ooooo, I'm only twenty two. I'll live forever. Ooooo, I'm only twenty two. I'll live forever Forever...~
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Post by lykos23 on May 30, 2013 10:31:39 GMT -5
cooling is a plus, as long as you arent cooling it LOWER than its correct operating temp. you probably wont get there. most 50s are air cooled, meaning that they are air AND oil cooled. an oil cooler will help. you are correct that running a 50 at WOT will wear things out faster. this is one reason i HATE restricted or low power 50s. usually means you have to WOT to maintain your state's speed limit, and usually drop to like 15 on a hill. a 150cc maintaining 35mph (standard moped speed) will have much less wear than a 50cc doing the same. increasing the power of your 50 to make WOT at all times unnecessary will decrease wear, but will tempt you into keeping WOT and just going faster than usual. i live in the mountains, and a standard 50cc means 10-15 mph on some hills. this is unacceptable to me as it is unsafe. this causes cars to try and pass on double yellow, risking a head on collision and also putting the rider at greater risk because a driver would sooner run a moped off the road than hit a car head on. that low speed also causes some jerks to feel the need to honk, throw things, or get too close at speed. i wont put up with that crap. I have a 50cc mini chopper thats got 4 gears and will do 45 on flat and an 80cc honda elite that goes 45-50 flat and 55 downhill. both can maintain 30-35 on hills which is acceptable. your best bet is a 150 swapped 50, (performance wise) IMO but ive heard the 80cc kits go pretty well on the 50s. if you want to be able to do "mad overclocking" you need to start with something like a 2 stroke water cooled 50 like a Kymco. they have engine kits but anyone that knows bikes knows you can squeeze more from a 2 stroker if you know what you are doing It seems to make sense that a more power and less wot equals longer parts life, whereas putting your engine in WOT, no matter what bore size, will wear things out quicker. That hill thing is mostly why I plan on getting a bbk, I can go 43mph downhill, and up to 38mph on flat terrain, but I always slow down to 25mph on any and all hills. While I would absolutely love to get a 2stroke to toy around with, or a 150cc, I currently don't have the cash to throw down on one. I've been trying to look through craigslist for project bikes and such, but I'm having no luck. Everyone is selling their really old chinese scooters for $1,100+ around here in Chicagoland. Nobody likes to trade, either... I have a two stroke Honda Zook, and a two stroke foldable DiBlasi scooter, but neither of those are even worth modding. Funny, the AM2 chips from AMD had a problem where cooling them to below a certain temperature would make them freeze; I guess that's the case here as well, haha. I'm sure the performance fan pushes a lot more air than the stock fan and that should mean my engine will last just a bit longer though I doubt it will really effect the performance of the thing, unless I'm really pushing it to its limits on a long drive. Mine is air cooled, and just like my computer, I thought adding a high quality fan might help. I paid $12 for my 120mm fan for my case alone, I should be spending more than that on a high quality fan for my scooter too.
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Illinois
by: lykos23 - May 30, 2013 10:19:47 GMT -5
Post by lykos23 on May 30, 2013 10:19:47 GMT -5
McHenry, IL. Just an hour away from Chicago.
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New Rider
by: lykos23 - May 30, 2013 9:41:25 GMT -5
Post by lykos23 on May 30, 2013 9:41:25 GMT -5
[replyingto=steelace]steelace[/replyingto]! /)
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New Rider
by: lykos23 - May 30, 2013 9:31:40 GMT -5
Post by lykos23 on May 30, 2013 9:31:40 GMT -5
Welcome aboard, and good luck!
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Post by lykos23 on May 30, 2013 8:28:58 GMT -5
My life was "drastically altered" when I was about 8 years old thanks to a drunk driver. My mother who had always been productive and working was the driver and she herniated three discs in her upper back meaning she has to take pain medication for the rest of her life just to be able to move around without tears of pain.
I myself got off lucky and have three bulging discs in my mid back and every day is filled with some pretty bad pain.
We were just driving to get some Wendy's when this old jackass came out of nowhere from behind us, at a stoplight, doing 70mph+ and hit four or five cars behind us. We were the lucky ones... Of the cars behind us, one of the women hit was pregnant.
I certainly hope you all have learned your lessons... And needless to say, I never, ever drink and drive.
I also know two people that have literally killed people while texting. They tell me stories of how they were just texting on their phone and heard a big "bump" but kept on driving, only to come home to the police claiming they had killed a man. And these disgusting Texting-Punks both thought it was just funny, of all things, because they had both killed illegal immigrants. One of them is just acting cool while he is very deeply disturbed by what he's done and hasn't been the same. The other is just completely stupid.
I honestly think we need to bring back that special place called a Gulag specifically for those kinds of people.
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Post by lykos23 on May 30, 2013 7:50:17 GMT -5
[replyingto=jerseyboy]jerseyboy[/replyingto]Aha! So that's the trick!
Thanks for the reply.
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Post by lykos23 on May 30, 2013 7:11:13 GMT -5
So I barely have six months of experience with my scooter, but I have years of experience with electronics and computer components. And I was wondering if anything really translates or correlates to the world of scooters, such as comparing a big bore kit with overclocking. When it comes to computer overclocking, it often requires upping the voltage, perfecting the ram timings, and most importantly upping the cooling system. Now, oddly you would think this would cause more power usage, more wear on the components, and that it would cost more money, but sometimes it's quite the opposite. You see, when your computer needs to utilize all its resources, including cpu power, it needs to max out its voltage, power usage, and has to "rev up" in order to keep up with whatever heavy task you're doing. (especially with turbo core, but I won't get into that here.) So, when you overclock your computer this gives your computer more resources to work with in the form of shear processing power. With an efficient overclock may come longer parts life, snappier response, and LESS POWER USAGE . But why? Because, just like in scooters, you don't have to run "WOT" all the time. The processor barely needs any of its extra power in order to perform your task at hand and in the long run this conserves on power usage. And even though you would think that overclocking and stretching the potential of a cpu processor would kill it eventually, there is sometimes less wear on the processor just because it doesn't need to utilize nearly as much power to perform a task, even though its max voltage has increased. Now, I was wondering if that translates or correlates to the world of scoots in the fact that I am right now running WOT ALL the time. No matter where I'm going, I seem to have to run WOT just to maintain speed limits. Now, with a BBK I shouldn't even have to run WOT; would this not translate to less wear on my parts, even though it's a bigger bore? Even though I will have much more power, utilizing only a fraction of it should technically mean that it's safer than running WOT all the time on a 63cc, which I currently do. My second unproven hypothesis is that cooling should play an important factor in my engine's life span. Why? I don't know, that's just how it works with computer components. I have no way of measuring the temps and from what I hear an engine runs best when it's warm, or hot. But doesn't that wear stuff out? Would it not be in everyone's best interest to get performance cooling? What's your opinion on this fan? www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007PC821A/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2VPA2J7YDDYSTWhat are your thoughts? Am I just completely wrong on this one?
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Post by lykos23 on May 29, 2013 22:54:15 GMT -5
[replyingto=redroush00]redroush00[/replyingto]There's also scootdawg.net which is a site that forked off the original scootdawg.proboards site.
Some of us are members of several scooter sites. That one you found seems to be a good one, but I've personally never seen it before.
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Post by lykos23 on May 29, 2013 22:37:41 GMT -5
[replyingto=ricepapi]ricepapi[/replyingto]I think it would very much help to know your scooter specs and scooter model, etc. but I'm no expert
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Post by lykos23 on May 29, 2013 21:39:24 GMT -5
can't go wrong w honda Just a few posts ago I talked about how SOL I am with my Honda Zook because there's no parts availability... Ahem... Anyways, congratulations on your new scoot! You can go wrong with Honda, but only if you get a Honda Zook.
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Post by lykos23 on May 29, 2013 21:27:58 GMT -5
[replyingto=awhitlock]endru[/replyingto]
Thanks, Endru! That video will sure to come in handy. I really appreciate not having to look for that, haha.
Whatchoo talkin' bout? What's going to expire? Why? How? The big picture is a collapsing economy, but that has nothing to do with this at all. You know that it's a 50mm bbk and not a full 100cc bbk, right? It's like 82cc. A 100cc bbk might make my engine explode, but 82cc will just shorten the life of my crankshaft from what I've heard.
If there's more to this, do tell.
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Post by lykos23 on May 29, 2013 20:32:47 GMT -5
[replyingto=millsc]millsc[/replyingto]Got it! Off with the piston ring installer!
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Post by lykos23 on May 29, 2013 20:31:54 GMT -5
Hard start suggests possible valve adjustment but I would do a proper idle adjustment first. This is taken from a thread from scootdawg. I do not take credit for it. ADJUSTING YOUR FUEL RATIO SCREW: FOLLOW THIS PROCEDURE, take your time DO NOT Be turning the SCREW fast and wait in between turns otherwise you will be off. Warm Up the SCOOT for at least 5 minutes. YOU WANT THE HIGHEST IDLE OUT OF THE FUEL RATIO SCREW YOU CAN GET. ADJUST YOUR FUEL RATIO: 1. Turn the Fuel Ratio Screw Counter Clockwise 1/4 and wait 10-15 seconds to allow the engine to catch up with the new setting. ** IF ON THE FIRST TURN IT DOES NOTHING OR IDLE GOES DOWN- GO to 2.*** Otherwise GO to a. below. a. If the IDLE GOES up repeat 1. b. If the IDLE does not go up or it does nothing turn the Fuel Ratio Screw 1/8 Clockwise that should be the highest IDLE you can get out of the Fuel Ratio Screw-- GO to FINISH UP. 2. Turn the Screw Back 1/4 and GO to 3.. 3. Turn the Fuel Ratio Screw Clockwise 1/4 and wait 10-15 seconds to allow the engine to catch up with the new setting. ** IF ON THE FIRST TURN IT DOES NOTHING YOUR PILOT JET AND OR PASSAGES ARE CLOGGED*** GO to CLEAN CARB*** Otherwise GO to a. below. a. If the IDLE GOES up repeat 3. b. If the IDLE does not go up or it does nothing turn the Fuel Ratio Screw 1/8 Counter Clockwise that should be the highest IDLE you can get out of the Fuel Ratio Screw-- GO to FINISH UP. FINISH UP: SET IDLE USING IDLE SPEED SCREW: USING the IDLE SPEED SCREW set the Idle to 1500-1800 where it IDLES the smoothest AND the REAR WHEEL IS NOT Spinning- TEST YOUR ADJUSTMENT: Now while on the Center Stand GIVE THE THROTTLE a GOOD QUICK TWIST and Let go, It should REV UP with with a nice VROOOOOOOOOM with no Bogging or Hesitation and Come back down to where you set your Idle. When I first got my scooter I tried adjusting the valves to fix my hard start issues. The scooter ran better, but was still difficult to start. Then only after properly jetting (or improperly jetting if you ask some, 38 pilot jet LOL), and adjusting my idle I still couldn't get the thing to start on the first try, it was very difficult to start. It was only after I popped off the A/F screw cap on the carb (I use a stock carb that came with a small cap blocking this feature) and got access to the a/f screw that I was able to adjust my a/f ratio and finally get my scooter to start on the first try, every time. I do hope you followed this very guide that I used.
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Post by lykos23 on May 29, 2013 19:25:25 GMT -5
[replyingto=awhitlock]endru[/replyingto]That's a very good point, Endru. Perhaps it would be better to carefully place the rings by hand. I've never needed special tools for precariously delicate procedures in electronics I don't see why I should need them now. I've considered going higher in jet size, but I already have a # jet I ordered from previously when I was finding the right jet currently, so I figured I'd start with the and do plug chops and go from there. I didn't know it was easier on the bearings to use a larger jet though, that is very intriguing. I've added a performance fan to the list because in the computer environment proper cooling is key and while that doesn't correlate to the world of scooters it just seems like good juju to get the fan. It's only $20 anyway, haha.
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