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Post by prodigit on Aug 29, 2013 2:17:10 GMT -5
Fourth pic shows a lot that the others don't, for instance: It shows the exhaust type, full aluminum, except for the ends (which probably will rust). It also shows how under the handlebars there are 2 'things'; one being the ignition key hole, the other I don't know. It shows that the glove compartment is closed, and wonderfully curved, and has a key to lock it.
In case you haven't noticed, it's missing the left mirror, and it doesn't have a flat floorboard, and the right mirror looks iffy with that rubber off.
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Post by prodigit on Aug 28, 2013 22:50:40 GMT -5
Whoo, A lot of politics, and ethnic talk here! Still, we can be grateful that the chinese are making these things. If it wasn't for them, we'd all be stuck with either 2/3rd more expensive Korean models, or double to quadruple priced Japanese or USA bikes. I don't mind cheap underwear from the Chinese, but I personally don't want to trust them with my life with their inferior parts as i head down the highway at 65mph. I've ran my 50cc @ 50MPH, my 127cc @60mph, my 150cc@63MPH, and my 260cc @ 80MPH for a few 1 hour trips, and more, without problems. Each one of them I've ridden at least once on a 4 hour trip, some even doing 5 or 6 hour trips on, with varying speeds. Even chinese products make noises or give hints when something is not right. They don't just simply explode while you're riding 60 on the highway!
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Post by prodigit on Aug 28, 2013 22:47:57 GMT -5
I think I can pull off a valve adjustment, by youtubing it. That's freakin' unbelievable! With all that screwed up techno babble crap you continue to post like you are an expert mechanic, how can you not handle a simple valve job? Remove the valve cover Find top dead center Use the proper size feeler gauge, a little snug but slides in without forcing, next larger gauge shouldn't fit Loosen the nut on top and turn the little square post in the center to get the proper adjustment Torque the locking nut properly and then double check the gap, put the valve cover back on. After a couple of times it should be like a 15 or 20 minute procedure. There's a first time for everyone, man.. But if it only costs $50, I don't think I'm even going to bother doing it myself. I might if it was a $75-100+ job. Concerning the rollers, yeah, they might be a bit worn. I need lighter rollers anyway, but the worn plastic won't be much of a reduction from weight. I'll take a look at it ... someday... whenever I have time... Right now I'm expecting a 250cc baby, and am excited about modding it, and taking it out for a spin! The 127cc I have right now, has proven a lot better than I thought it would be! ~114MPG is AmAzInG
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Post by prodigit on Aug 28, 2013 22:42:44 GMT -5
OldChopperGuy, my 2ct:
I just upgraded too, got myself a Dongfang 250cc RTC-B Naked bike. I went manual motorcycle, because I find manual gears much more fun than an automatic CVT; because the manual gears allow much more variety in riding style (eg: I can ride both aggressive and economical on one bike, without any modification) but to each his own. I understand you prefer a scoot, if they only had manual/semi manual scooters available of 250cc... A manual geared motorcycle usually is with a chain drive, which will make gear changes very easy (just change the rear sprocket), and thus make top speeds of just over 80MPH possible on any 250cc, even a thumper. The Linhai 260 engine with fuel injection and CVT could reach 80MPH too (83 actually), but I'm not fond of a CVT.
In fact, a CVT is the reason that I personally am not a scooter guy anymore. A scooter is good to do groceries, but the fun of riding is in the complete package, riding with gears IMHO! And for me, a 250cc is more than enough. And likely for your situation too. Most 250's with CVT will do 75MPH tops, and probably 65-70MPH all day long. So I would presume it's fast enough, unless you live in the mountains where the bike has to fight a lot of uphill slopes, you're 250+ LBS, or you're living on the edge of hurricane land. But other than that, 250's should be sufficient for any kind of travel below 75MPH. For me, it was a matter of size. Yingang makes excellent motorcycles, but few parts. Dongfang is the TaoTao of motorcycles. Good engines, crappy everything else, but you see that in the price. Roketa is somewhere in between, with an excellent Roketa Enduro clone bike, for only $1700! The enduro's aren't for long trips, so I never bought one. The saddle is about the same as on the MC-05-127. Comfy for 30 mins to 1 hour. But on a 5 hour trip you need to give the rear end some breather every hour, or the pain will make you think everything rotted and died already...
I had the choice, a $1900 enduro model, a $2000 sports bike, a 2100 naked bike, a 2400 bobber or cruiser (that's with shipping included), or a $4k Honda Grom. I could also get a Suzuki TU250x, but If I'm going for a small engine good on gas, I might as well get the grom, as the grom with it's 125cc engine does 75MPH too!
I went for the naked bike. Enduro's aren't comfy to sit on, sports bikes get stolen too much, and have bad seating ergonomics, and the DongFang was bigger in size than the Yingang, which was on the small side for even a 5'6" person, due to the high position of the pegs, and the lower saddle. And at 1/2,5 th the price of a grom, I went with the Dongfang.
That being said, I was racing next to a Honda PCX150 with my 125cc MC-05-127, and could barely keep up. I don't know if the PCX might be something interesting for you to ride on? I hear they also get 75MPH.
Other than that, if you really want to stay with Chinese bikes, get the cheapest of the cheapest. The engines are about all the same. The BMS TBX260 is the nicest looking bike of the bunch, but at about $3k delivered it's not worth the price. Don't go for it's nice looks, and it's high quality materials and fuel injection. I think it's quite a waste, and most chinese bikes run just fine with plastic, instead of metal.
The BMS 260 I had, had quite some torque, yes, but the belt was a goner after 2k miles. The bike rambled apart, because the 1 cylinder thumper, was thumping so hard in idle, that the whole front vibrated, the mirrors vibrated so hard, that they looked like they where wings, flapping loose! I couldn't see $#!T through them when I was idling. And the plastics started squeaking really fast (after only 1k miles), because the idle vibrations of the 250cc was just too much! The BMS uses a Linhai engine, very good, but there are so many hoses and wires under the seat, it's a big mess trying to work on it! Not only complex, but things are hard to reach, panels aren't fitting over their mounting holes, etc... And an EFI is not a carburetor... Much harder to fault-find.
If you really want panels that don't fit, then get a $1k cheaper Roketa! Less problems, less complex, not a whole lot worse riding comfort, just a tad only, but at 2/3rd the price it's more than worth it! A lot of users have put a nice 20+k miles on their Roketa 250cc maxi scoots!
And the weight! The BMS 260, almost broke my back, just trying to get it out of the crate! Luckily they had mounted the front wheel already, but at almost 500LBS that's not a fun thing to do! The Roketa is at least 100LBS lighter.
The BMS felt on the virge of a motorcycle. Almost impossible to push on a flat, or in grass. I was so much more happy riding my ATM50 instead!
Later I bought a mid size 150cc scoot (the TaoTao EVO150). It felt so much better to ride. Though top speed was 20MPH slower, it managed just fine on the local highways (where 55 is the max speed limit, and most traffic, just like my bike did 60MPH).
My recommendation:
Get a Roketa 250cc scooter new from a cheap company like superiorpowersports. I've always found them to deliver good products, save for a single forgotten bolt, or nut, and the fuel hose clips, and double nutting the exhaust pipe (have 4 products of them now, each product had these problems). The forgotten nut was either a side peg nut, a carburetor nut not tightened, exhaust bolts, or something minor. Aside from that, all my scoots ran fine out of the box, without even changing spark plug or fuel hoses. You can change the fuel hoses when they start leaking, which, unless you keep it out in the sun all day, might probably happen after the second or third year or so.
And a lot of people testify those roketa 250's are good!
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Post by prodigit on Aug 28, 2013 21:54:13 GMT -5
With the new sprocket, I rode from Miami to Pompano Beach via US1, on my MC-05-127, mainly 40-55MPH roads, and got some good gasmileage there, of about 104MPG. I did the trip again, and basically in a matter of a few days did 3 fuelups, so the fuel isn't rotting before I actually use it. On my way back I rode on the A1A, which is mainly 35-40MPH roads, and the gas mileage I got there is out of this world! From 108-118MPG!! That's better gas mileage than my ATM50, better acceleration, AND better top speed, and that for only $200 more than what my ATM50 costed me! The manual gears help with ~10MPG over a CVT, but the way I rode the bike was very gently, with some peaks of 60MPH riding, but not many. I have to say on the A1A was almost no stop light, so that helps too. The last fuelup is an estimation according to the current fuel meter readout and the odo meter. www.fuelly.com/driver/prodigit/mc05127?fu=4961853
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Post by prodigit on Aug 28, 2013 12:32:37 GMT -5
Whoo, A lot of politics, and ethnic talk here! Still, we can be grateful that the chinese are making these things. If it wasn't for them, we'd all be stuck with either 2/3rd more expensive Korean models, or double to quadruple priced Japanese or USA bikes.
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Post by prodigit on Aug 27, 2013 22:38:32 GMT -5
I've seen burgmans with just over 4k miles being sold for between 3600 and 4000 (add 500-1000 on additional taxes and dealerfees). Just saying. Burgmans are solid. They probably do 50k miles problem free, and after that a few things to fix, and probably give you another 5-10k problem free riding, with every 5-10k miles one or another thing breaking 'till you're at 75k miles where you probably could continue, but where the reliability might be questionable.
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Post by prodigit on Aug 27, 2013 19:39:00 GMT -5
Nice, Perhaps you could find some rubber pieces to mount under it at the top, to tilt it a bit more (mounting it under an angle)?
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Post by prodigit on Aug 27, 2013 16:25:47 GMT -5
If you don't want to clean it out, just pour 1/2 a bottle of Chemtool B12 in your fueltank. It's probably10x the recommended dose, but for sure after a tank of that, the carb should be clean. If you're not sure, put some seafoam in the next tank, and just ride the tank empty..
Sounds to me like you're running lean what could be because of a clogged jet.
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Post by prodigit on Aug 26, 2013 22:24:38 GMT -5
Yeah, it takes quite some riding years, to kind of estimate road grip for 75% correctly; meaning most of the time I stay well below 25% of what I think the road's max grip would be in the situation. The more of a pro you are, the more you can estimate road grip correctly. But I'm not an expert at cornering to the point of losing grip.
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Post by prodigit on Aug 26, 2013 22:21:32 GMT -5
Thanks alleyoop for your confidence! Just like an oilchange which I youtubed, I think I can pull off a valve adjustment, by youtubing it. And I did find the AF screw on my carb, it was just sealed.
But truth is I don't wanna do it, I have plenty of job and rather would be doing something else, and have someone else do it who knows more of it than me.
The screetching sound is not my variator. I've already opened it, and the belt looks like new, with barely any dust in the cvt case. It may be the clutch. Funny thing is it screetches, even when I decelerate, but only in the beginning. As soon as the engine heats up, it ebbs away. The sound comes from the side of the muffler, not the CVT side.
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Post by prodigit on Aug 26, 2013 19:18:07 GMT -5
If I would do it in a scooter garage?
My ATM has topped 5500 km, and it screetches (makes a (soft) screetching sound when accelerating), and it's performance is pretty low (does 40-42MPH tops, that's about 7MPH from what it would usually do). It's MPG also has dropped to 97MPG with hard tires, where before I could get 107MPG with hard tires (38PSI).
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Post by prodigit on Aug 26, 2013 17:02:19 GMT -5
I did'nt want to respond to this cause I thought it would get political. IT HAS.I like my chinese scooter,But I hate the circumstances and abhorrent conditions in it's place of origin.I beleive wholeheatedly that AMERICAN GREED.is more responsible for the exploitation of chinese people than OL Mousey tounge himself!The Nixon administration apparently had a plan...and it worked I actually sort of disagree with this. I would say that Chinese greed is the primary driver for the exploitation of Chinese people. I feel the Chinese would agree. I know the people in China we do business with daily do. American greed is just one of the many enablers that the Chinese use. Matt On that I would have to say that the chinese could raise their employees wages by $1/hr, but you'll be paying perhaps $250 more for a scooter. Also, there are only very few chinese people earning a lot of money in a company. All others are on basic wage. If they would cut CEO wages to minimum wage, and you'd be able to split that profit amongst all the employees, they probably would be earning like less than $0.1-$0.5 per hour more. Yes, Chinese CEO's and business men know how to extort their employee wages, but don't tell me that not the same thing is happening in USA, where the average CEO earns over 300x the wage as their lowest earning employee!
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Post by prodigit on Aug 26, 2013 12:13:51 GMT -5
Isn't there an additional adjustment within the drum brake to push the pads away of each other?
I mean, on cars there is, I just never took the time to look at my chinese scoots. For that very reason you mention, I try to brake as least as possible with the drum brakes, and try to brake with the front disc brake, because disc brake pads cost less, and are easier to replace!
During my riding I only brake with the front brake, unless I need emergency braking, then I'll add the rear brake to my braking, or if I need to brake in a corner, I only brake gently with the front, and more with the rear. I've almost had an accident once, on a scoot braking with the front, while cornering (yeah, sometimes you ain't got no chance to straighten the bike, before applying the front brake), and I'll just say, I'll never do it again! At least not hard braking.
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Post by prodigit on Aug 26, 2013 12:08:21 GMT -5
Lolz, China is getting developed, just like US and europe was in the 1900's. Children go to school there, they don't work in factories. People say that they do, and there are a lot of 'conspiracy theorists' amongst people, and I only abhor their stories, and the lack of data to back it up, other than that they 'heard someone say that' and they 'read online that'... Yeah, I can make a story too online, and have many people go crazy how china uses infants to beat them up and force them into labor, because infants are cheaper than kids.. Please, use your common sense! The chinese products are relatively good, and the fact that many get over 10k miles on their scoots proves this! That, combined with the fact that you can buy a new scoot every year, and still be under the price of a Japanese scoot, AND the fact that you've had the pleasure to ride 4 different scoots, instead of only one jap bike, makes that buying Chinese products makes so much more sense. You can literally buy 2-4 chinese scoots for 1 Japanese scoot, meaning you could buy a different color for each outfit or mood (a black one for the mean mood, red one for the speeding mood, yellow one for the funky mood, and a white one for the cool mood)
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