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Post by rockynv on Jan 2, 2017 8:06:02 GMT -5
China started off the new year with an Orange Air Quality Alert for most of Central and Northern China leaving them one step from a full shutdown of Manufacturing, Construction and Schools. Currently Airports and Transportation are now shut down or have delays while on the Orange Alert. www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/01/02/world/asia/ap-as-china-smog.html?_r=0This has got to be tough and the health costs along with upgrades to factories to reduce emissions are probably going to hit hard for years to come not to mention the impact to families suffering respiratory ailments. |
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Post by ricardoguitars on Jan 2, 2017 8:38:04 GMT -5
This will affect production costs in China, raising product prices as a consequence; environmentally friendly stuff is expensive and someone has to pay for it, in this case the customers.
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Post by rockynv on Jan 2, 2017 9:17:10 GMT -5
The estimates are that there are 1.4 to 1.6 million people who die in China every year due to the air pollution being so bad. Here are some recent pics:    One can only imagine what its like to have your children rushed home from school or have a family member die because the air was too polluted to safely breath. |
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Post by cyborg55 on Jan 2, 2017 9:22:42 GMT -5
When on an extended vacation in China (Hong Kong and surrounding provinces) the air was pretty bad,,,you could taste it,,,,nasty stuff,,,,when coming back into town from the country side it was really noticeable ,,,,
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Post by wheelbender6 on Jan 2, 2017 10:57:58 GMT -5
Like Los Angeles in the 1970s.
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Post by crawford on Jan 2, 2017 20:19:10 GMT -5
And everyone wonders why California is so tough on there air can you really blame them? I guess China's top leaders figure if a few thousand die they wont be miss with all the Millions they have.
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Post by rockynv on Jan 3, 2017 0:38:39 GMT -5
And everyone wonders why California is so tough on there air can you really blame them? I guess China's top leaders figure if a few thousand die they wont be miss with all the Millions they have. The numbers appear to be 1.4 to 1.6 million per year dying with the danger being for entire areas to become unlivable so more than a few thousand. They waited way too long to change their ways and are paying the price to catch up however they are now making the effort and the problem now has their full attention. A tough daily situation to be living with. Yes it almost happened here yet you still see naysayers wanting to delete systems designed to protect the air from their bikes patting themselves on the back for their ingenuity. |
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Post by rockynv on Jan 3, 2017 4:51:22 GMT -5
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Post by tvnacman on Jan 3, 2017 17:29:01 GMT -5
kinda reminds me of "The lifted Lorax"
John
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Post by rockynv on Jan 6, 2017 4:33:18 GMT -5
Besides the 24 elevated to Red state an additional 21 went to Orange a few days ago. Air quality I presume will be the #1 issue in China for a long time to come. The health costs will probably become staggering too. The hope is for a strong wind to come along and help clear things up.
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Post by spandi on Jan 6, 2017 7:31:26 GMT -5
I guess this is why the domestic Chinese market is turning more and more to E-scooters....And the price of wanting to catch up to the rest of the industrialized world "overnight"
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Post by rockynv on Jan 6, 2017 13:31:21 GMT -5
It took them how many years to realize that the warnings about smoking were not simply American propaganda? They did finally learn that lesson even though sadly so many folks there died of emphesema and lung cancer with the numbers at crisis levels.
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Post by Jarlaxle on Jan 8, 2017 17:42:14 GMT -5
And everyone wonders why California is so tough on there air can you really blame them? I guess China's top leaders figure if a few thousand die they wont be miss with all the Millions they have. The numbers appear to be 1.4 to 1.6 million per year dying with the danger being for entire areas to become unlivable so more than a few thousand. They waited way too long to change their ways and are paying the price to catch up however they are now making the effort and the problem now has their full attention. A tough daily situation to be living with. Yes it almost happened here yet you still see naysayers wanting to delete systems designed to protect the air from their bikes patting themselves on the back for their ingenuity. Have you ever modified a bike, mechanically? If so, you're a hypocrite. |
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Post by wheelbender6 on Jan 8, 2017 20:31:50 GMT -5
Sticks and stones,
To each his own!
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Post by rockynv on Jan 9, 2017 12:34:01 GMT -5
The numbers appear to be 1.4 to 1.6 million per year dying with the danger being for entire areas to become unlivable so more than a few thousand. They waited way too long to change their ways and are paying the price to catch up however they are now making the effort and the problem now has their full attention. A tough daily situation to be living with. Yes it almost happened here yet you still see naysayers wanting to delete systems designed to protect the air from their bikes patting themselves on the back for their ingenuity. Have you ever modified a bike, mechanically? If so, you're a hypocrite. Different tire, better spark plug, more aerodynamic fairing, more efficient variator - Yes. Defeat pollution or air quality systems - BIG NO! My other car is a Zero Emmisions Plug In Electric with the less volitile air cooled batteries. Trying to be part of the cure and not a perpetuator of the problem. Won't resort to name calling of those trying to make a difference either and will leave that to the Internet Bullies. |
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