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by: jeff01 - Nov 8, 2016 13:42:30 GMT -5
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Post by jeff01 on Nov 8, 2016 13:42:30 GMT -5
How long could i reasonably expect my 2014 chinese 150 to last with regular maintenance and little abuse , can anyone recommend handguards for winter riding
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Post by tortoise on Nov 8, 2016 14:11:54 GMT -5
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Post by cookees on Nov 8, 2016 14:14:14 GMT -5
My experience would dictate aprox. 5 years or so. I've seen them go in as little as one year, and last as long as 9 years.
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Post by cookees on Nov 8, 2016 14:17:05 GMT -5
oops
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by: hillbillybob - Nov 9, 2016 9:48:34 GMT -5
Post by hillbillybob on Nov 9, 2016 9:48:34 GMT -5
Oh no.....just wrapping up my 5th year of operation. Should I be expecting my scoot to poop the bed?
I have yet to change the original spark plug, or any of the other ignition components. It uses no oil, and blowby is almost non-existent. I haven't needed to adjust the valves since the 2,500 mile mark, haven't cleaned or adjusted carburetor in 11,000 miles, when I up jetted it to compensate for the free flow air filter. I'm still running the same Visu Fuel Filter that I installed while doing the PDI when scooter was new. It still starts, idles, and runs great. My scoot is a long, long way, from being worn out.
How long will yours last?...... that's totally up to you.
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by: Noneshere - Nov 9, 2016 16:20:13 GMT -5
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Post by Noneshere on Nov 9, 2016 16:20:13 GMT -5
Gy6 is a very reliable design so long as you dont run it low on oil.
I usually get 6-8K (MotoGP) miles on mine without having to go inside.
Even so its real easy to learn rebuilding them.
No hand guards, just good fitting mechanic " Impact " gloves all I use in the winter.
Get a CNC aluminum throttle before the plastic 1 crumbles.
@$20 with grips on ebay usually.
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by: onewheeldrive - Nov 9, 2016 18:16:55 GMT -5
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Post by onewheeldrive on Nov 9, 2016 18:16:55 GMT -5
It's really hard to say in the long run. I mean it's not very often I see someone on here saying they got 25-35k (or however many) miles on a 150cc before the engine was toast. I'm guessing most on here haven't made it that far yet. People come and go and we never hear back, so it's hard to get a guesstimate.
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Post by JerryScript on Nov 10, 2016 0:16:43 GMT -5
One thing many people don't take into consideration is the cleanliness of the engine. These air cooled engines rely on the air being able to touch the metal and transfer the heat away. A build up of road grime will cause an engine to run hotter, leading to issues sooner. Clean that baby regularly, change the oil regularly, and DO NOT REV THE ENGINE WHILE MOTIONLESS, and you will get far more miles than a dirty engine will.
The vast majority of people scrap an engine that could be easily fixed because they aren't mechanical, and the local scooter shops aren't exactly trustworthy. Many figure it's cheap enough to just buy a new scooter.
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by: onewheeldrive - Nov 10, 2016 1:07:00 GMT -5
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Post by onewheeldrive on Nov 10, 2016 1:07:00 GMT -5
One thing many people don't take into consideration is the cleanliness of the engine. These air cooled engines rely on the air being able to touch the metal and transfer the heat away. A build up of road grime will cause an engine to run hotter, leading to issues sooner. Clean that baby regularly, change the oil regularly, and DO NOT REV THE ENGINE WHILE MOTIONLESS, and you will get far more miles than a dirty engine will. The vast majority of people scrap an engine that could be easily fixed because they aren't mechanical, and the local scooter shops aren't exactly trustworthy. Many figure it's cheap enough to just buy a new scooter. Which is why it'd be nice to have like 10-15 people on here (rather than the average Joe) that can say exactly how long their engine lasted in miles/km, since it seems at least most people on here attempt to maintain their scoots engines. Someone coming on here saying they put 12,000 on it and still running doesn't mean much to me for a ballpark estimate in how long a 150cc engine lasts (with reg maintenance and not running hard). We just rarely see 150cc die in here. I know "GEH3333" had about 25k or so and still running. Haven't heard from him in awhile. |
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Post by cyborg55 on Nov 10, 2016 8:33:24 GMT -5
It's all been said here,,,care and maintainance dictates longevity,,,and also the way it's used,,the way hillbillybob takes care of his stuff I'd wager a large sum of money he gets 45-50000 before it needs rings,,and in his hands the thing will probably see 100,000,,,someone else that's not as exacting in the care department,,and is always at or near redline,,it'll last until it pops,,,the way the gy6 is designed it's infinitely rebuildable as long as your able/willing to rebuild it,,,the only snag I see in real longevity is the frame,,,after a while fatigue will be an issue,,,and I'd like to add that some people get infatuated with scooters get one then get tired of it or "outgrow" them and move to motorcycles or,,(and pardon me for saying it but ) better quality scoots that are generally more reliable ,faster, better brakes,and much longer durations between service intervals,,,some people don't mind tearing into the internals of their scoots others want to ride and not be fiddling with it,,,the very reason I sold my Vespa et4,,,too much work,,,I got it running well and sent it off to it's new owner,,got a Stella shifter bike and it's a joy,,,turn key hit button ride,,,,
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by: ricardoguitars - Nov 10, 2016 11:22:08 GMT -5
Post by ricardoguitars on Nov 10, 2016 11:22:08 GMT -5
It will last as long as you want, as long as you get rust away from the frame, mine is showing rust spots already after 2 years, I plan to take it apart and repaint the frame, but you can't do much about the insides of the frame tubes aside from soaking them with oil.
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by: onewheeldrive - Nov 10, 2016 16:33:42 GMT -5
Post by onewheeldrive on Nov 10, 2016 16:33:42 GMT -5
It's all been said here,,,care and maintainance dictates longevity,,,and also the way it's used,,the way hillbillybob takes care of his stuff I'd wager a large sum of money he gets 45-50000 before it needs rings,,and in his hands the thing will probably see 100,000,,,someone else that's not as exacting in the care department,,and is always at or near redline,,it'll last until it pops,,,the way the gy6 is designed it's infinitely rebuildable as long as your able/willing to rebuild it,,,the only snag I see in real longevity is the frame,,,after a while fatigue will be an issue,,,and I'd like to add that some people get infatuated with scooters get one then get tired of it or "outgrow" them and move to motorcycles or,,(and pardon me for saying it but ) better quality scoots that are generally more reliable ,faster, better brakes,and much longer durations between service intervals,,,some people don't mind tearing into the internals of their scoots others want to ride and not be fiddling with it,,,the very reason I sold my Vespa et4,,,too much work,,,I got it running well and sent it off to it's new owner,,got a Stella shifter bike and it's a joy,,,turn key hit button ride,,,, Lol, 100,000 on a 150cc Chinese engine? Not saying it can't be done. I believe he takes good care of his stuff from what he posts, and I hope he does reach that milestone, but I'd agree if it was a higher quality engine. |
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Post by hillbillybob on Nov 10, 2016 18:58:35 GMT -5
No....it will never make it that far. I'd have to cover as many miles annually as I do now, until I'm 109 years old. Now that would be a milestone. We all know that these little plastic Chinese scoots are not built like a Honda, Yamaha, or Vespa. But they are not the troublesome, unreliable, pieces of junk, that some make them out to be.
Properly maintained, and ridden as intended, they can be a great little machine......for a long time.
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by: cyborg55 - Nov 10, 2016 20:19:13 GMT -5
Post by cyborg55 on Nov 10, 2016 20:19:13 GMT -5
I didn't say you'd make it,,,and to set the record straight,,,all of Hondas small stuff is and has been made by sym in Taiwan,,,the little CB 175's and such,,,and their scooters are sym and now some are being made in mainland china,,,all of yamahas are made by kymco,,,,honda sym and kymco were all honda a while ago before they broke up,,,,and almost all of vespas mills are made in taiwan,,,bmw car engines and now motorcycle engines are made in china,,,,
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Post by onewheeldrive on Nov 11, 2016 0:10:55 GMT -5
I feel like the engines aren't why people call the cheap Chinese scoots we all know "junk". I'm talking about people that actually own one and not someone being stereotypical. It's usually the littler things like a cdi, voltage rec/reg, vacuum petcock...etc that fail pretty early and frustrate people that aren't the greatest amateur mechanic, just calling the whole deal junk rather than just the part or whatever the small problem is (valve adj..etc). That small stuff happening isn't uncommon, imo, and I think us members overcome stuff like that (at least somewhat active members)
I feel like the top and bottom ends of these motors are the best parts as long as you don't go to extremes with the rpms and massive bbk.
I've come to expect 10-15k on my engines w/72cc bbk the way I ride and maintain it and I'm happy for the most part. Just wish my cranks lasted a bit longer but that is probably somewhat my fault for the reasons just mentioned.
Honestly my scooter LOOKS like a piece of junk sometimes with the broken panels and stuff. Gotta be really careful with those panel tabs. Lots of wear and tear over time.
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