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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 14, 2016 16:18:12 GMT -5
I still question why an R20 100w 120v bulb wouldn't be the same regardless of who I get it from.
And today's update. We currently have collapsed intestines again. Yes dollar, I moved it to where the bookcase shields it. Plus it's even nicer today than yest, almost 60° out.
Last night it once again gained fluidity and attempted making globules to float. And again utterly failed to disconnect the globs from the...uh, tube connecting it to the base-mass. Never achieved a free-floating glob before time.
Poor lava lamp. I'm starting to feel sorry for the thing. And more determined than ever to get it working right.
>'Kat
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 14, 2016 18:29:07 GMT -5
Btb dollar, I carefully (HOT!HOT!HOT!!) shifted the lamp so it's now nestled in a little corner created by to stacks of boxes. So a bit further away yet from the window-wall, and hopefully the boxes will help contain some of the lamp's heat so it doesn't dissipate into the rest of the bedroom.
Although I'm not sure it's helped any. We currently have bottom mound only. No attempted globs, no intestines, just mound. Sigh.
>'Kat
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Post by rockynv on Jan 14, 2016 23:13:56 GMT -5
A little help from a blow dryer to gently preheat the lamp may show whether more heat is required.
The exact type of bulb is probably critical to the operation of the lamp. The bulb shown on the Lava Lamp website looks like more of a projector bulb which focuses the heat away from the bulb while other bulbs are designed to reflect the heat back to the bulbs base.
I was head of maintenance for a super market chain and we had some store managers that tried to save money buying flood lamp bulbs from the hardware store and found that their highlighted produce was wilting and beef/pork was turning grey because they were using the wrong style flood lamps even though they were the correct wattage. They called in that they were having a refrigeration issue and it became obvious the moment we examined the refrigerated cases what the problem was since you could actually feel the heat from the hardware store bulbs when you passed your hands underneath them. They were in effect slow cooking things using the wrong style bulbs.
Some of the self help videos from Lava Lamp showing that taking a few naps are the cure to the more common issues are a bit comical.
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Jan 14, 2016 23:44:43 GMT -5
the only advice i can offer is that lava lamps work on on the principle of heat transfer.
this transfer causes one of the "fluids" in the lamp to heat and expand faster than the other, which causes it to rise.
i never owned a lava lamp, so i can't be of much help other than throwing out some random ideas that might work.
one other thing is, you said you purchased this lamp used, so you can't assume the wattage of the current bulb is correct.
is there a model/ serial number on this lamp?
a manufacturer?
a label that has any kind of useful info?
please post.
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 15, 2016 9:22:57 GMT -5
All right, rocky, I compared the Batteries + Bulbs to what Lava Lamp sells. Looks identical. As in zero diff I can see. So I'm thinking it's not the bulb that's the issue, but something with what's inside the glass. Sigh.
And slow-cooking food on display? That's even eww-ier than the intestines my lamp's been making!
As for the vids, makes sense that if you front for a company that manufactures lava lamps and glitter lamps and tornado lamps etc, you're gonna' be a bit goofy. Or at least have fun!
>'Kat
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 15, 2016 9:44:42 GMT -5
dollar, actually I CAN assume the wattage of the bulb is correct  , because I read the label and replaced the one the pawn shop guys had put in. There's a label inside the base that VERY PLAINLY and CLEARLY states exactly what bulb to use. Which they didn't  do. They had a 130v, which isn't as hot as the 120v. Silly guys. Although in their defense, I wouldn't have known there was much diff until going through all this. I figured 130v would be hotter than 120v--higher number, so higher heat, right? Wrong. I did mess first with the 75w halogen, since it seemed I couldn't get the exact right bulb. The lightbulbs store (who'da thunk there's enough bulb business to support a store selling ONLY lightbulbs?!) thought it might--MIGHT--work since halogens run hotter than incan's. No such luck. But B+B could order the actual fully-correct bulb. The guy was REALLY impressed I knew in my head all the stats. Told his coworker to come check their records "for this lady, she doesn't have anything written down but she can rattle off all the stats for you." Well, duh, yeah, I've been rattling them off at all the hardware stores, I've got it down cold now. As for model, I know it's the Grande size lamp, yellow in blue. Guess the color makes a diff 'cause the lava lamp consumer help lady asked for the model, I told her Grande, she said what colors? The label says "Series 6000" There's a sticker on the top cap that seals it which I'm guessing is the serial number? Btb, inside the base REALLY STINKS. Like, I dunno, stinky hot plasticky chemicals or something. Hard to describe when you've never smelled anything quite like it before. It's not hot or anything, but it really does stink. Hm. Wonder  what sort of fumes it's putting off that's killing more of my blonde braincells...? >'Kat |
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 15, 2016 9:50:00 GMT -5
Update from last night's run--the lava stuff does get fluid in there. It just never really gets to making actual globs that float up and sink down. It tries, it tries really hard. There's globs at the ends of the tubules. But they just never manage to disconnect and free-float.
Except for one time last night. Two managed to pull free but immediately bled drops out the bottom and sank right away and joined the mound. Sigh. We almost had liftoff, Houston!
Immediately after that, it resumed big fat tubules with almost-globs at the tips.
Like my best friend said, this has been a saga.
>'Kat
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Jan 15, 2016 10:59:33 GMT -5
check out some of the links from the following search results: www.google.com/search?q=lava+lamp,+series+6000,+blue,+yellow,+grande&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&gbv=1&sei=lhWZVuXQK8bcmwGS1qrIDQ one of the above results specifies a 100W projection bulb. also, the results do not appears to be linking properly. i entered the following into google: lava lamp, series 6000, yellow, blue, grande. (all at the same time) i suggest entering the above search terms and go through the results, check out the sites that offer similar lamps to yours, especially in regards to size and type of "fluid". read the use and care instructions for these lamps you will no doubt find things you didn't know. for example, i almost recommended that you shake your lamp to "get it started". one of the search results said shaking your lamp will ruin it. keep on it kat. show that lamp you are more stubborn than it is. it will comply or die! |
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Post by rockynv on Jan 15, 2016 13:15:57 GMT -5
There is more to it than just wattage and a similar bulb shape. There are reflective coatings, shape of the filament, specific metals in the filament, location of the filament inside the bulb, type of glass and more to consider.
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 15, 2016 13:31:46 GMT -5
Oh, I totally must remember that phrase, dollar! "It will comply or die!" Love it. YA HEAR THAT, LAMP? COMPLY! QUIT MAKING DISGUSTING INTESTINES AND START FLOATING GLOBS!! Oh, it's not on yet. I suppose I'll have to reyell at it once the timer clicks on. I've copied your link and will graze through the offerings once I finish undecorating the Christmas tree. Always a sad time, that. >'Kat |
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 15, 2016 20:00:57 GMT -5
You know, that would've been a better catchphrase for the Cybermen than "delete." "Comply or die." Much punchier, much scarier, much betterer. Still not as good as "Ex-ter-mi-nate!" but then pretty much nothing will ever equal that. Lamp's been on since about noon. We again have single large tubules trying to make globs on the ends. I had the space heater also going 'til about 4:15 when we left to run a couple errands. I will never knowingly leave any space heater on in my absence from the house. But we're back for the night, so I've got it on again. Hopefully it'll warm the room enough to help out LL. Oh, and I decided to not call the company's consumer help lady today. She had said run it four days then call. And it would've only been three, plus maybe half. I'll call at lunch on Mon instead and give her a six-day report, 'cause I'll do 10-hours runs tom and Sun, too. Then she can't say I didn't give the lava every possible chance to... (come on dollar, say it with me) COMPLY OR DIE. >'Kat |
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 15, 2016 22:40:27 GMT -5
There is more to it than just wattage and a similar bulb shape. There are reflective coatings, shape of the filament, specific metals in the filament, location of the filament inside the bulb, type of glass and more to consider. Hey rocky, I missed your comment earlier. I would say the reflective coatings are the same, based on how the silvery coating on the bottom half matches, my bulb to their picture. As for the rest, dunno. Obviously. However, also based on how warm and toasty the room currently is, and that we are still only achieving fluctuating tubule undulations, I am staying with my hypothesis that there's something hinky with the lava. Even if the bulb isn't quite right, the additional warmth of the room should've changed the flow behavior. Right? COME ON, LAMP!! MAKE FLOATING/SINKING GLOBS!!! COMPLY OR DIE!!!!!! >'Kat |
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 15, 2016 22:43:05 GMT -5
The tubules really are undulating. Just not turning into globs. Sigh. Not sure if undulating large tubules are worse than flowing intestine-tubes.
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 15, 2016 23:37:13 GMT -5
Say, rocky, you know about bulbs. So how does a 75w halogen compare in heat output to a 100w incan?
The bulbs store guys THOUGHT (my emphasis) (well, not really, as they were pretty emphatic themselves that they weren't sure about it, but....) that they should be fairly equal. Would you agree? Or would a higher watt hal be closer? Or maybe the guys were right and they are about equal, but a higher watt hal would work better since it would make more heat yet still be less wattage than the lamp calls for? Maybe?
>'Kat
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 15, 2016 23:38:41 GMT -5
I'm lying here watching it try so very very hard to make separate globs. And just barely not quite succeeding. Closest it comes is a glob suspended in the middle with a tail (formerly the tube that broke from the bottom mound) that's bleeding either large drops or flowing streams of lava. Sigh. And that's it. Lights out. Just turned off. I think tom I'll adjust it to turn on a tad bit earlier. Sure, it'll be over ten hours, but seems like tonight here at the end, it was getting so close to making globs. I mean, sure, globs with tails bleeding freely back into the mound, but still that's a whole lot closer than collapsed intestines. dollar, maybe your threat is working!  >'Kat |
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