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Post by florida on Jan 7, 2016 14:54:26 GMT -5
I am looking to buy or make a tool for servicing a 50cc cvt and clutch instead of an impact wrench. Just the nuts to remove them from engine.
I have been using a screwdriver and vice grips to remove nut on cvt and it is a hassle. Can you reccomend a product that has teeth and locks up the cvt from moving so i can service cvt? I have seen one before but dont know where to buy one.
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Post by JR on Jan 7, 2016 15:14:11 GMT -5
Are you removing the variator or clutch or both?
JR
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Post by rcq92130 on Jan 7, 2016 16:40:01 GMT -5
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Post by florida on Jan 7, 2016 19:24:37 GMT -5
Are you removing the variator or clutch or both? JR Both. Edit: i plan on taking apart clutch by using my bench vice. |
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Post by JerryScript on Jan 7, 2016 19:46:44 GMT -5
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Post by rcq92130 on Jan 7, 2016 20:20:27 GMT -5
Since these little electric torque wrenches are so close to heaven-sent ..... and because even $24 for a new on right after XMAS might be a challenge .....
my torque wrench tried to bit the dust about 6 months ago also. It was just the cig. lighter plug=in plug. Snipped it off, attached a pair of alligator clips to clip to the battery, and it's been back in business since. Note also the plug-in plug has a fuse inside that might be the only problem.
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Post by JerryScript on Jan 7, 2016 20:31:22 GMT -5
Since these little electric torque wrenches are so close to heaven-sent ..... and because even $24 for a new on right after XMAS might be a challenge ..... my torque wrench tried to bit the dust about 6 months ago also. It was just the cig. lighter plug=in plug. Snipped it off, attached a pair of alligator clips to clip to the battery, and it's been back in business since. Note also the plug-in plug has a fuse inside that might be the only problem. Unfortunately, mine won't spin anymore. I got three good years of use out of it, not bad for $24, i will definitely be getting a new one! |
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Post by rockynv on Jan 7, 2016 20:36:06 GMT -5
You can buy or make one of these: www.partsforscooters.com/202-19-Pit-Posse-Universal-Holder People do a lot of damage using the wrong tools so kudos for vetting out the right ones. The electric impact wrench is OK for removing if you ensure that the impacts do not get transferred to the crankshaft and connecting rod however to properly install a variator or clutch you really need to use a locking tool and an accurate torque wrench. Some say using the impact wrench causes no problems however they are also many times the same ones who end up replacing a variator every second or third belt change or have an unexplained vibration or report that somehow the end of the crankshaft just sheared off all by itself while I was riding. |
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Post by JerryScript on Jan 7, 2016 22:56:09 GMT -5
Not to argue rockynv, but I'm confused at your concerns. The crankshaft and rod handle the force of thousands of explosions per minute, each of which is much more powerful than any impact wrench. I would be interested in reading some examples of people who have messed up their variator or crankshaft with an impact wrench, it could prove enlightening. |
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Post by rcq92130 on Jan 7, 2016 23:12:28 GMT -5
Not to argue rockynv , but I'm confused at your concerns. The crankshaft and rod handle the force of thousands of explosions per minute, each of which is much more powerful than any impact wrench. I would be interested in reading some examples of people who have messed up their variator or crankshaft with an impact wrench, it could prove enlightening. /\ /\ /\ /\ what jerry said. |
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Post by rockynv on Jan 8, 2016 13:57:10 GMT -5
Not to argue rockynv, but I'm confused at your concerns. The crankshaft and rod handle the force of thousands of explosions per minute, each of which is much more powerful than any impact wrench. I would be interested in reading some examples of people who have messed up their variator or crankshaft with an impact wrench, it could prove enlightening. Yes the crank and rod handle explosions but under constant pressure lubrication or splash lubrication that is renewed with every splash of the dipper in the oil pan which on a 4 stroke with dipper splash lubrication is twice before then next ignition pulse. The better splash systems use a paddle wheel that provides a more constant flow of lubrication. When using an impact wrench you squeeze the oil out of the crank and rod bearings after the first few moments and then start scuffing things. You can mute it by holding the variator from vibrating and transfering the impacts to the crank however a novice is not usually going to do that and just let it wail. Its not going to be a 100% failure rate and could be all over the scale depending on whose pulling the trigger on the impact wrench and the characteristics of the impact wrench itself. On a GY6 having more torque than in impact wrench I am not so sure of that. We are only talking about engine developing around 8 hp and a relatively few pounds of torque while my main impact wrench on the other hand creates around 650 pounds of torque with even the bargain units developing over 100 lbs to remove lug nuts. Better safe than sorry and use the correct tool for the job following established best practice. |
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Post by rcq92130 on Jan 8, 2016 15:23:43 GMT -5
The electric torque wrench JR & I are talking about (and many carry in their scooters) is electric - designed to remove lug nuts when changing the tire on a car. it BARELY cracks the nuts on my car ... and the torque setting on these is waaayyy below 100 ft-lbs.
I think this thing is ideal for what we use it for and almost impossible to do anything bad with. And ... it is the most handy thing since sliced bread.
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 8, 2016 17:17:22 GMT -5
I use a huge 8amp electric craftsman impact . never had an issue . u have to be smart about using it. I can overtighten nuts with a socket wrench and snap bolts . its all about knowing how to use the tools you decide to use
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Post by rcq92130 on Jan 8, 2016 18:09:57 GMT -5
You are a manly man, George. Me ---- girly man, I guess!
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 8, 2016 18:25:12 GMT -5
You are a manly man, George. Me ---- girly man, I guess! Lol, I doubt I'd snap the crankshaft. I think my main point was it's easy to strip bolts with any type of tool even a socket wrench . its mainly just being careful with the tools u use. I have snapped a few wheel lugs before , with hand tools. |
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