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Post by jwalz1 on Apr 3, 2013 9:13:28 GMT -5
Yes, that is EXACTLY what I am saying! I need a scoot that can handle highway driving...hence looking at the 250's & the Burgman. Note: my mother's starter bike (still has it) was and is a 650cc Suzuki Savage! There is another factor nobody has mentioned that is a benefit of the Burgman, and this is not universal, more anecdotal. When you have a smaller scooter some drivers, no matter how fast you are going will feel the need to crowd and pass you. Something about the size that makes people feel you are holding them up, even when you are not holding them up. I have a friend with a 50cc and a 400cc and he says some people feel the need to practically run him off the road on a 50cc even if he is ten miles over the speed limit. I have had a couple over anxious people when I am riding even though mine is the size of a motorcycle, but I think it happens to the bigger ones less. Not to mention easier for other drivers to see. |
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Post by prodigit on Apr 3, 2013 12:38:46 GMT -5
It happens less with a 125 or up. People get annoyed because the 50cc's accelerate so slow. Nothing to do with the rider, but with the laws, which limit the scoot to 49cc.
The difference between a BMS260, and a Burgman 400 is minimal. The weight is about the same, a bit better on the BMS, acceleration is a bit better on the burgman; top speed and long distance riding (more than 30min rides) is better on the burgman, reliability is MUCH better on the burgman,
Other scoots in this category would be (IMHO from worst to best):
1- BMS TBX 260
2- Linhai Aeolus 260
3- Linhai Aeolus 300
4- Kymco Agility City/New Dink/Downtown/Like/People S/People GT/Downtown 200
5- Kymco Downtown 300/Gdink 300/People GT/Xciting Ri 300
6- Kymco KXT 300/Xciting 400
7- Kymco Xciting Ri 500
8- Suzuki Burgman 400
9- Kymco MyRoad 700
10- Honda Silverwing (600)
11- Suzuki Burgman 650
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Post by xylon on Apr 3, 2013 14:17:06 GMT -5
Its a.simple problem: Bergs & Majestys are pricey! If I cant afford one...Im probably going Chinese. Id love a scoot I can ride for 5+ years with minimal trouble, like a Bergman. Does Honda make anything in the 250-400cc range? All I see are little (50-150cc) scoots & Silverwings. Honda SH300i (designed to combine the power of a 300 with the agility of a 125, I've read good reviews for it) Honda Forza (300cc, don't know much about it, not available yet here in England) Dunno if they make any others. |
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Post by Jarlaxle on Apr 4, 2013 10:36:57 GMT -5
Pro: where would you put a Kymco Grandvista 250?
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Post by jwalz1 on Apr 4, 2013 12:43:34 GMT -5
Pro: where would you put a Kymco Grandvista 250? It is a decent but funky looking bike. Not fuel injected and fits smaller rider best. It is made very well, but with the same engine, I like the People 250s better if you can find one. And even as a Kymco owner, I would not take either 250 over a Burgman 400. Nice bikes, but not Burgmans. |
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Post by Jarlaxle on Apr 4, 2013 12:58:16 GMT -5
"Smaller rider" rules me out!
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Post by prodigit on Apr 4, 2013 12:59:10 GMT -5
Yeah, Kymco is in the business of creating lots of large sized scoots.
best thing to do is go to maps.google.com, and type in "kymco dealer" , near your location.
I totally forgot the Honda scoots, they have a 150 and a 300. The 150 is good for highway, but not extended rides (like more than 30 minutes highway rides, multiple times a week).
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Post by tinstar on Apr 6, 2013 13:07:54 GMT -5
If you could find a SYM RV250 on your local Craigs list, you would have the perfect scoot to learn on and to ride for quite some time! After doing a lot of research, I set out to find a decent used maxi-scooter for a reasonable price. I had ridden lots of different bikes in my life time and my last one was a Yamaha VStar 1100, but due to back, knee, and neck problems, I just couldn't do the big, heavy bikes anymore. I discovered the maxi-scooters in a local park being ridden by senior citizens! I found the perfect bike, a red SYM RV250 approximately 50 miles away. It' only had around 2500 miles, was a 2008, and was owned by a lady that was riding it around in her subdivision, trying to get used to two wheels so that she could progress to a bigger motorcycle and ride with her husband. It was in the winter time when it's a good time to be a buyer, and I was able to get it for $2,000.00. She had kept the maintenance up and the only blemishes were a few scratches where she had dropped to bike once while sitting still. She passed the motorcycle course and her husband had gotten her a new Yamaha VStar 650. I brought the scoot home on a trailer because I was not used to a scooter and didn't want to take a chance riding one on the interstate. It felt a lot different than my motorcycle and took me a little while to get used to it. I did a lot of riding in various subdivisions just to get my feet wet, but once I did...I've never looked back! I have thought about getting a bigger scooter, but the RV250 is so easy to handle and just so much darn fun, that I think I will keep it even if I did get a bigger scoot for longer rides. Anyway, I wish you well and I do encourage you to check out Craigs list as you may luck out the way that I did! By the way, SYM scooters are made in Taiwan and are very reliable bikes. All I have done is routine maintenance. I couldn't be happier!
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Post by Jarlaxle on Apr 6, 2013 14:24:10 GMT -5
Actually, I have found a Q-link Commuter 250 (the Helix-clone)...and I like it. Q-link seems to be several tiers above the typical "China scoot" in terms of quality, it's a pretty well-optioned scoot (even has a stereo), it's a long wheelbase (not much shorter than the big Harley next to it!), so should be stable. And I have to admit, I kind of like the funky styling.  |
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Post by ramblinman on Apr 9, 2013 15:09:04 GMT -5
If you could find a SYM RV250 on your local Craigs list, you would have the perfect scoot to learn on... SYM scooters are made in Taiwan and are very reliable bikes. All I have done is routine maintenance. I couldn't be happier! from my recent research on this scooter, i couldn't agree more. if i had the money i would buy this one today: powerandplaywarehouse.net/products.php?prod=120honda quality at a discount from what i have heard. |
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Post by tinstar on Apr 9, 2013 22:18:36 GMT -5
Exactly Right!
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Post by domindart on Apr 9, 2013 22:36:16 GMT -5
My 150cc is fun but not really highway worthy. If you need highway miles get a 250 or higher. Or get a motorcycle
My first motorcycle (before the scoot) was a GS500. I would think You should be fine on a 400 scooter. Much easier with just the twist throttle and go ( no clutch to deal with).
My second motorcycle (before the scoot also) was a SV1000. Much more power, and I decided to sell it after a fall. It was my fault for not leaning enough in the corner but I was fearful I was going to kill myself lol.
Today, I love the 150 cc cause it doesnt get me in much trouble, but I want to get another motorcycle. Either ninja 500 or a SV650.
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Post by spandi on Apr 10, 2013 1:50:47 GMT -5
You seem set on (eventually) heading out on the highway. This being the case I'd just take it slow and "scoot" around side streets, parking lots etc, until you've gotten the feel for the bike and it's physical characteristics. But before anything else take a motorcycle safety course. You're already one step ahead in that you realize early on the need to be wearing FULL safety gear. Good Luck!  |
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Post by domindart on Apr 10, 2013 1:56:22 GMT -5
I'll be honest. I dont wear full gear even though I own full gear  |
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Post by Jarlaxle on Apr 10, 2013 6:10:34 GMT -5
I go for my M.O.S.T. course next weekend.
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