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Post by lain on Sept 4, 2015 22:57:53 GMT -5
I'm planning to go on a long ride to the cape again or to a park my friends keep hounding me to go out west in springfield. We plan to go on my scooters. I have gone on long trips before but we plan on staying a night and camping. What should I do to prepare, and what can I do to maximize storage but still keep the load not too heavy? Plan to go two people with two scooters or 3 people with 2 scooters and a van (maybe but probably not).
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Post by beenriding on Sept 5, 2015 3:11:38 GMT -5
Is it possible to forward some supplies to the campsite by van? Then you could ride light.
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Post by flyangler on Sept 5, 2015 5:10:56 GMT -5
Have you researched the possible routes you'll be taken to W. Springfield? I'm assuming you're going to either the Eastern States Expo or Six Flags Park in Agawam, there are four probable routes from Boston rt.2, rt'9, rt.20, and the Mass Pike, if you're riding 150s rt.9 is your best bet and will bring you into Northampton and from there you head south to W.Springfield, rt.20 is more direct but is not a good road to ride. Your biggest challenge will be finding a place to camp anywhere near W.Springfield as it's nearly all city, you can find places in Northampton though. Northampton is my home town and if I can be of any help send me a pm and I'll do what I can. Dan.
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Sept 5, 2015 9:03:11 GMT -5
if you plan on taking a van, then problem solved.
the first thing you need to do is draw up some kind of "flight plan", the route you are taking, designated stopping points, etc. make sure everyone is familiar with it, and that everyone carries a cell phone and the charger for it.
wearing backpacks and fanny packs can give you a lot of storage. if the backpacks are too big, then the front rider of a 2 up situation might not be able to wear one.
the number one item (besides a cell phone) is a spare 1 or 2 gallon gas can. i sat mine between my feet and bungied the handle loosely to the bikes frame.
number 2 on the list would be tools. my ride only required a small assortment of sockets to service the entire bike, and they could all fit in a fanny pack that weighed about 5 pounds. the big item was the 13 inch breaker bar, which i bungied to one of the inside rails of my bike. make absolutely certain this is bungied properly OR YOU WILL LOSE IT. if your scoot is water cooled, then you will want to carry water too, 2 liters should be plenty. other spare parts you might consider is a CDI and a drive belt. put a paper clip on your keyring, and use it in case your sparkplug boot somehow malfunctions. this little piece of wire can get you home when nothing else will.
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Post by ghcoe on Sept 5, 2015 9:31:23 GMT -5
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Post by lain on Sept 6, 2015 7:39:35 GMT -5
Thanks everyone. It looks like we will be bringing the van and we will be going to the cape, but I still have my doubt about the van since the guy who has the van has never been on time for anything and often bails on us and does not tell us until hours after we were supposed to meet, so I'm still planning for either or just to be safe.
We are taking 50cc class scooters with "100cc" big bore kits. Max speed of about 52.
I already have all tools you would need to do every single task a scooter would ever need neatly packed into my bucket seat all the time. So no worry about tools, I also carry extra coils, CDI, belt, vairator pieces, etc. Plan to also bring spare tires already assembled with rims and everything for quick changes in case of flats, cuz I freakin hate changing the actual tires from the rims haha.
What do I do about the vibration that usually kills my wrists and puts my hands and butt to sleep every 30-45 minutes? Is there some trick, maybe wrapping the grips with cloths or something to reduce the vibration to my hands?
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Post by beenriding on Sept 6, 2015 9:10:15 GMT -5
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Post by phssthpok on Sept 6, 2015 9:22:42 GMT -5
. What do I do about the vibration that usually kills my wrists and puts my hands and butt to sleep every 30-45 minutes? Is there some trick, maybe wrapping the grips with cloths or something to reduce the vibration to my hands? Pipe-wrapMy thought is to cut to length, and wrap with electrical tape. Might have to do something to make sure it 'grips' the throttle though...like maybe securely tape some sandpaper to the grip first, then cover with the pipe-wrap. As for carrying cargo, I've often pondered one of those lightweight kiddy-carrier trailers for bicycles. Designed to carry two kids up to toddler size, you're looking at some viable carry capacity for a small scooter *AND* (as an added bonus) all the trailer coupling engineering (to accommodate lean in a turn) has been done for you!
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Post by lain on Sept 6, 2015 9:47:06 GMT -5
I have fingerless riding gloves I have been using for a while, they help in everyday riding, and I fell the issue with the vibration killing my wrists and hands is more related to my poor circulation in my hands and back.
The pipe wrap idea is pretty good but I'm not so keen on foam lol, don't really like the sound or feel of it.
We have decided to make it a single day trip. Since we will have 2 scooters at the least one will carry tools, the other can carry food and stuff.
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Post by beenriding on Sept 6, 2015 21:04:33 GMT -5
I have fingerless riding gloves I have been using for a while, they help in everyday riding, and I fell the issue with the vibration killing my wrists and hands is more related to my poor circulation in my hands and back. The pipe wrap idea is pretty good but I'm not so keen on foam lol, don't really like the sound or feel of it. We have decided to make it a single day trip. Since we will have 2 scooters at the least one will carry tools, the other can carry food and stuff. Dude when I had carpel tunnel in my wrist riding was hard after 30mins the vibration was the worst. I got that fixed but still have issues with that wrist and it still bothers me to ride
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Post by rockynv on Sept 7, 2015 7:12:44 GMT -5
An acquaintance rode a Vespa 200 from Clearwater, FL to the Northern part of the AlCan (Alaskan/Canadian) highway some time ago and he packed an Ultralight Tent along with most of his camping gear in two plastic packing tubes he hung from either side of the bike from the luggage rack and under the back of the seat. He added a military style gas tank to the front of the bike and carried a gas can in the footwell. Since this was around 12,000 miles round trip he did bring a few oil filters, set of rollers, extra tire and a new belt. www.sptimes.com/2005/04/13/Tampabay/Savings_on_2_wheels.shtmlA camping trip to the Cape would be a bit easier. Just think minimal/light and yes prepare for your potential no-show.
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Post by nulldevice on Sept 7, 2015 16:35:10 GMT -5
I have no idea where you are going to or how far it is from your starting point. There are a zillion Cape What Ever and a lot of Spring Fields spread around the country. That being said, here are some points from my half century of riding.
1. Unless you have changed the gearing on your 50cc scooters, you need to keep the speed in the 30 MPH range for long distance. That motor won't last long cranking 10,000 at 45-50 MPH and you will be beaten to death in the first hour or two of riding.
2. A small tent, a sleeping bag, and a sleeping pad or air mattress and a small duffel bag is not a significant weight and can be bunged on the back of the seat. Think small and minimal for the accessories. Leave the two burner Coleman at home and get a small sterno stove. Cook the beans in the can they came in, and so on.
3. Tools and parts -- stay local and don't go far if you need to haul a service department inventory with you to be comfortable more than a few miles from home. Really. Truly. Been there, done that, and nearly always needed something I didn't have with me.
4. Dump your "friend" with the van and load as if he isn't going to show. Being hours late and not letting you know on a frequent basis is not the behaviour of a friend.
Good luck.
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Post by rockynv on Sept 8, 2015 21:09:32 GMT -5
Handle bar end weights do help reduce vibration and along with some compression gloves may give you enough relief to extend your riding time.
Cape Code is nice this time of year and fun ride from Boston if you stick to the 40/45 mph state roads. A 150 or 250 would be better matches for that type of touring but it can be done if you keep it reasonable. If you will be exceeding moped speeds then I hope you have Motorcycle Endorsements on your licenses so you at least won't have to deal with local police in the small towns nabbing you for going over 25/30 mph on a 50cc class bike without a valid motorcycle license.
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