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Post by donnydinlv on Jun 8, 2015 18:53:40 GMT -5
I need a bit of advice, and please consider it as "Scooter Works for Dummies". I have a 2014 Taotao GT5 50, and wanted to remove the air box air filter, and replace it with a cone filter. I did so, and after a quick ride around the apartment complex, pulled it off and put the air box back on. The reason being, my scoot bogged out as I would accelerate. I obviously thought that with air filters, it was basically "plug n' play", and even more obviously, it isn't. So, can someone explain as to where I went wrong, and what can I do to fix this as an issue? Are there additional parts or steps I need to take to be able to use a cone filter instead of the box? Many thanks in advance.
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Post by JoeyBee on Jun 8, 2015 19:41:16 GMT -5
You need to adjust your carburetor after changing from the air box to come filter. Basically, when you did the modification you increased the amount of air being sucked in. That changed your air:fuel ration.
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Post by JerryScript on Jun 8, 2015 19:45:29 GMT -5
Edit - joeyb beat me to it!
Your engine needs a particular amount of fuel and air. When you switch to a uni filter, you allow more air in, so you need to get more fuel as well to get the proper ratio. You may be able to just adjust the air/fuel mixture screw to add more fuel by turning it counter clockwise. If you turn it more than 3 full turns out from being all the way in, and it still bogs, that means you need a larger main jet in your carb.
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Post by murkyapricot on Jun 8, 2015 21:52:09 GMT -5
itistheride.boards.net/thread/12/4ts-carb-tuningeverything you will need to know about carburetor tuning (although watching a video or two wouldn't hurt) Also, if is possible that your carb may need a little modification, I have a taotao and the carb on it was ment to be "tamper proof" i guess would be the phrase basically they cap off where the adjustment screw is
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Post by toddmaples on Jun 9, 2015 8:53:01 GMT -5
itistheride.boards.net/thread/12/4ts-carb-tuningeverything you will need to know about carburetor tuning (although watching a video or two wouldn't hurt) Also, if is possible that your carb may need a little modification, I have a taotao and the carb on it was ment to be "tamper proof" i guess would be the phrase basically they cap off where the adjustment screw is Quoted for truth. TaoTao caps the adjustment screw at the factory. Simplest solution is buy an adjustable carb, especially if any other mods are planned in the future. Cheapest solution is drill a small hole in the cap and pry it off or CAREFULLY drill the entire top off the cap. Note the bowl screws are tamper-proofed also, so the new adjustable carb will save time in the long run. My 0.02$ |
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Post by JoeyBee on Jun 9, 2015 9:36:54 GMT -5
itistheride.boards.net/thread/12/4ts-carb-tuningeverything you will need to know about carburetor tuning (although watching a video or two wouldn't hurt) Also, if is possible that your carb may need a little modification, I have a taotao and the carb on it was ment to be "tamper proof" i guess would be the phrase basically they cap off where the adjustment screw is Quoted for truth. TaoTao caps the adjustment screw at the factory. Simplest solution is buy an adjustable carb, especially if any other mods are planned in the future. Cheapest solution is drill a small hole in the cap and pry it off or CAREFULLY drill the entire top off the cap. Note the bowl screws are tamper-proofed also, so the new adjustable carb will save time in the long run. My 0.02$ I agree. It is so much easier to just buy an aftermarket carb from Scrappy Dogs or other online sellers. The plus side also is that you will have spare parts in case of problems. |
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Post by toddmaples on Jun 9, 2015 10:29:15 GMT -5
Quoted for truth. TaoTao caps the adjustment screw at the factory. Simplest solution is buy an adjustable carb, especially if any other mods are planned in the future. Cheapest solution is drill a small hole in the cap and pry it off or CAREFULLY drill the entire top off the cap. Note the bowl screws are tamper-proofed also, so the new adjustable carb will save time in the long run. My 0.02$ I agree. It is so much easier to just buy an aftermarket carb from Scrappy Dogs or other online sellers. The plus side also is that you will have spare parts in case of problems. Salvage everything you can from the stock carb, then scrap/trash the rest. Grinder works good for getting to the bowl components on tamper proof carbs but this is only for scavaging spare parts as it will not be repairable afterwards. Id also suggest getting a jet kit if you are planning on other mods such as a freeflow exhaust or bbk or head work. Any questions just ask, I have built one of the TaoTao engines to "100cc" and will be happy to provide help. |
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Post by JerryScript on Jun 9, 2015 11:43:28 GMT -5
With a dremel, it only takes 5 minutes to put a groove in those bowl bolts, no reason to waste money on a new carb IMHO.
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Post by donnydinlv on Jun 9, 2015 18:51:24 GMT -5
Thanks to all of you - I will most definitely give it a go.
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Post by chromestarhustler on Jun 11, 2015 13:04:00 GMT -5
the factory carbs, even the blocked off ones are no problem, you can drill and easy out the bowl screws,(or a pair of vice grips) and the air fuel mix brass plug has been described above....
I dont buy into the whole it saves time just ordering an aftermarket carb bs....unless you got a shop in town...otherwise you wasted the 3 days waiting on it and the 30 or so dollars cause you didnt wanna spend 5 minutes on it... the factory ones once de-neutered are fine running carbs
now i have enough scooters that i have a small parts department in my garage of spares and keep 1 or 3 spare carbs half a dozen belts etc etc...but thats a another story
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