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Post by alleyoop on Mar 26, 2013 13:23:47 GMT -5
Some live in hilly areas and need the motors to always run at higher rpms to get up the hills at a descent speed otherwise they will be walking the scooter up the hill or crawling at 15mph up it. Others need the scoot to be quick from light to light to keep up with the traffic. If you live where it is flat and long stretches of pavement then the cruising setup is best for comfortable riding and top end speeds and enjoying the scenery  . So it all depends on how you like to ride. Alleyoop |
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Post by skuttadawg on Mar 26, 2013 13:29:03 GMT -5
The higher RPM clutch springs engage the clutch at their rated speed above that of stock like a stall convertor on a car with an automatic transmission or revving it up and let out a manual clutch . The contra spring helps when going uphill . Higher rated clutch springs wear out the belt faster and the 2k ones may have you popping a wheelie . Try Dr Pulley sliders instead or at least at first as they work and last way better than roller weights . Hoca makes a bb torque spring base that spins to prevent the torque or contra spring from binding for Minarelli . GY6 and 139QMB engines here eshop.mainelyscooters.com/by-brand/hoca/169-280 |
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Post by gy6girl on Mar 26, 2013 14:35:22 GMT -5
Some live in hilly areas and need the motors to always run at higher rpms to get up the hills at a descent speed otherwise they will be walking the scooter up the hill or crawling at 15mph up it. Not really understanding that. I guess one could say that a higher rpm will translate to higher torque... But for hilly areas, wouldn't you go with a stronger contra spring and lighter rollers? Wouldn't that make more of a difference than at what rpm your clutch engages? |
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Post by millsc on Mar 26, 2013 14:38:14 GMT -5
my 1.5k torque spring seems to work much better on hills than the stock spring the rpms don't drop near as far when going up hill which makes it maintain higher speeds
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Post by skuttadawg on Mar 26, 2013 14:53:36 GMT -5
My 2T I can do 45 uphill with a BBK 5 gram rollers everything else stock in the CVT . I now have 8 gram Dr Pulley sliders , 1.5k clutch and contra plus the bbk torque spring base .
I had a wristpin clip come out and hammered the piston and head but bought a whole new kit waiting on it to warm up and put it on
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Post by gy6girl on Mar 26, 2013 15:17:25 GMT -5
I bought a 1500 contra spring, a yellow one. I also bought 1500 clutch springs, yellow again.
I bought them because I like the idea of having better acceleration after slowing down.
When I finally got those damn nuts off of it and put them on... ehhhh...
It's okay, but only thing I really noticed was better mid-range.
Take off was a tad slower, top speed was about the same, but in between there, it seemed better.
I'm now thinking about keeping the contra spring and changing the clutch springs. Lowering them. Maybe try some of those red ones.
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Post by millsc on Mar 26, 2013 15:20:37 GMT -5
The stock clutch springs and 1.5k torque springs worked well for me i put in heavier weights when i went up to the 1.5k torque spring
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Post by gy6girl on Mar 26, 2013 15:22:10 GMT -5
oops... I meant blue springs. The blue are the lowest, not red.
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Post by millsc on Mar 26, 2013 15:23:19 GMT -5
i run the blue springs and the yellow torque spring the yellow clutch springs just weren't for me
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Post by gy6girl on Mar 26, 2013 15:28:41 GMT -5
i run the blue springs and the yellow torque spring the yellow clutch springs just weren't for me I think I'm with you. I live in North Texas, not a lot of hills, some but not a lot. Most hills are down south and to the west. I'm in prairie country. So I think the 1000rpm will be better. |
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Post by gy6girl on Mar 31, 2013 20:41:31 GMT -5
And with the new clutch springs... The clutch exploded!!
Two of the pads broke all to pieces.
Not sure what the moral of the story is.
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Post by alleyoop on Mar 31, 2013 20:51:26 GMT -5
Which part broke off, by the hole on the end of a PAD or by the middle of the pad. I would say cheaply made Clutch using bad metal.
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Post by gy6girl on Mar 31, 2013 20:57:09 GMT -5
One broke at the tip and the other broke at the axis.
I am sure it was cheap metal.
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Post by millsc on Mar 31, 2013 21:01:59 GMT -5
I broke mine installing the clutch springs used a flat head screw driver broke the piece the hook ,hole part the spring goes on, I bought some snap ring pliers changes them with ease. Gave me a reason to buy a performance clutch so it worked out
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..BAD TO THE BONE..
