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Post by carefulrider on Nov 12, 2014 11:32:40 GMT -5
I'm looking for an oil additive that reduces the wear & tear caused by 'dryness' of cylinder walls after the scooter has remained unused over night. Any recommendations?
By extension, any suggestions for an additive that would remain "stuck to" the cylinder walls over the winter, while the scooter waits for the riding season to begin again in Spring?
Finally, since we know that oil deteriorates while sitting & waiting for Spring, why is it not a good idea to drain the oil & leave the "sump" empty till just prior to riding again?
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Post by ricardoguitars on Nov 12, 2014 12:46:29 GMT -5
I'm looking for an oil additive that reduces the wear & tear caused by 'dryness' of cylinder walls after the scooter has remained unused over night. Any recommendations?
By extension, any suggestions for an additive that would remain "stuck to" the cylinder walls over the winter, while the scooter waits for the riding season to begin again in Spring?
Finally, since we know that oil deteriorates while sitting & waiting for Spring, why is it not a good idea to drain the oil & leave the "sump" empty till just prior to riding again? To answer your last question, rust! Metal gets rusty on humid environments very quickly, in fact, I would suggest turning on the scooter and leave it idling for a few minutes every now and then to allow lubrication to happen on the engine, if you are going to put the scooter on storage for long periods of time. You should fill the gas tank as well, a gas system without gas can get rusty as well an accumulate dirt; stuff a rag in the air intakes and the exhaust to avoid small animals and insects nesting inside your engine. Don't forget to disconnect your battery.
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Post by geh3333 on Nov 12, 2014 20:37:47 GMT -5
If u let gas sit in the tank over the cold months , add seafoam or star con enzyme additive to the gas .
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Post by carefulrider on Nov 13, 2014 11:20:01 GMT -5
Thanks for your views. Now I hope someone has some suggestions for preserving the cylinder walls...
As for filling the fuel tank with gasoline & additives for the winter, my scooter's fuel level indicator's float gets submerged when the tank is full. Will it be harmful to the float system to remain submerged for around four months, while waiting for Spring?
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Post by spandi on Nov 13, 2014 16:00:40 GMT -5
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Post by dmartin95 on Nov 13, 2014 18:47:17 GMT -5
Thanks for your views. Now I hope someone has some suggestions for preserving the cylinder walls...
Hello, I think the reason no one directly answered you about the oil additive is because not that many people use something like that... A lot of folks use things like fuel Stabilizer for long term storage, but oil additive is new to me for what your wanting to use it for. My scooter manual has instructions for long term storage and advice on to "treat" the cylinder. Storage of the Vehicle Long-time storage: For vehicles that will be parked for longer then a month, the following items need to be performed. * Drain all fuel from carburetor and fuel tank. (I advise against emptying the tank)* Remove spark plug. Pour a tablespoon of clean engine oil into the cylinder. Using the kick start, turn the engine over 10-20 times to evenly distribute oil inside the cylinder.* Remove the battery and place on a trickle charger. * Wash the vehicle and wipe dry with a soft cloth. Wax the painted surfaces, and apply a film of anti-rust oil to the chrome surfaces. * Increase the tire pressure to the normal specification if low. * Cover the vehicle and store it in a well-ventilated, waterproof area. When removing from storage: * Clean the vehicle. Replace the engine oil if the vehicle has been sitting for more than 4 months. * Check the battery. Reinstall and verify all connections are secure. * Refill fuel tank. * Perform a visual inspection and check for leaks. Caution
Failure to keep the battery on a trickle charger during prolonged periods of storage will result in electric start problems.
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Post by tvnacman on Nov 13, 2014 19:05:51 GMT -5
fog it out with marvel mystery oil , I use Lucas oil additive during the extream temps in the summer .
John
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Post by alleyoop on Nov 13, 2014 19:28:53 GMT -5
The worst thing you can do is empty the gas tank, pour some gas stabilizer 1 oz per gallon then fill the gas tank as your filling the gas tank it is mixing the stabilizer. Which ever stabilizer you like they all will work well your only storing the scoot for around 4-5 months not a year. But if you can get at it say if it is in a garage or a shed or something and not outside the best thing to do is start it up once a week or once every two weeks and let it idle for 15-20 minutes to get the fluids flowing and it will be ready for spring to ride. Alleyoop
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Post by dmartin95 on Nov 13, 2014 20:05:53 GMT -5
The worst thing you can do is empty the gas tank, Yeah, I don't know why the manual calls for emptying the tank. In fact I'm going to edit my post to recommend against "emptying the tank". I always add just a wee bit of stable and fill the tank, Empty the float bowl and put the battery on the maintainer. That's the extent of my winter storage.
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Post by alleyoop on Nov 13, 2014 20:11:35 GMT -5
Yea, that is about the extent of it if your not going to start it up during the 4 or 5 month down.
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Post by geh3333 on Nov 13, 2014 21:08:35 GMT -5
Thanks for your views. Now I hope someone has some suggestions for preserving the cylinder walls...
As for filling the fuel tank with gasoline & additives for the winter, my scooter's fuel level indicator's float gets submerged when the tank is full. Will it be harmful to the float system to remain submerged for around four months, while waiting for Spring? The floats in these tanks are terrible , don't be surprised if you have to replace it after a couple yrs .
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Post by carefulrider on Nov 14, 2014 10:26:15 GMT -5
Thanks All:
Shall place a sheet of plastic on the ground, roll the scoot onto it, put Sta-bil into gasoline & fill up the fuel tank, change the oil & cover up the scoot with a bed sheet.
It will be stored in what Harbor Freight sells as a portable garage. It's the metal frame covered over with a plastic tarp; not readily portable, but one which can be disassembled & taken elsewhere for set up again.
I'll bring the battery indoors & see if I can't start the scoot up every fortnight, until the snow finally melts & the rain washes the salt off the roads.
Thanks again.
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Post by geh3333 on Nov 14, 2014 20:22:53 GMT -5
Thanks All:
Shall place a sheet of plastic on the ground, roll the scoot onto it, put Sta-bil into gasoline & fill up the fuel tank, change the oil & cover up the scoot with a bed sheet.
It will be stored in what Harbor Freight sells as a portable garage. It's the metal frame covered over with a plastic tarp; not readily portable, but one which can be disassembled & taken elsewhere for set up again.
I'll bring the battery indoors & see if I can't start the scoot up every fortnight, until the snow finally melts & the rain washes the salt off the roads.
Thanks again. Seafoam has a couple extra perks then stabil . as seafoam sits it will help clean any dirty components and it will also help with condensation . same with the star con
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