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Post by kennyhittz150cc on Apr 13, 2014 22:28:11 GMT -5
I have a 2012 tao tao im looking to upgrade I plan on starting with rollers to dr pulleys 12g or 13g carb filter and a prfomance cdi I weigh about 240 .. just looking 4 advise would like to get up to about 70-80mph with good take off please help appreciate it ....
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Post by kennyhittz150cc on Apr 13, 2014 22:42:26 GMT -5
pic of my bike only road it one time has 650 mi on it
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Post by kennyhittz150cc on Apr 13, 2014 22:51:27 GMT -5
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Post by PCBGY6 on Apr 13, 2014 23:59:59 GMT -5
70-80 mph....? Stroker crank, bbk, performance head, different final gears, along with pretty much everything else.
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Post by PCBGY6 on Apr 14, 2014 0:02:08 GMT -5
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Post by ltdhpp on Apr 14, 2014 11:24:05 GMT -5
You will never see 70-80mph on a 150cc... they run out of steam at 55mph. Just because some people can get to a Chinometer 65mph downhill with back-wind, doesn't mean the scooter has any usable power left at that speed.
Do you want better take-off or better top speed? You can't have both, and they are actually a trade-off. A bigger carb isn't going to do squat unless you install a BBK.
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Post by kevbailey on Apr 14, 2014 14:05:47 GMT -5
Like was mentioned previously, I don't see 70-80 being a reality out of this scoot. Would be cool, but there's only so much engine down there!
Getting the dr Pulley 12g sliders will make a difference from rollers. probably the best overall in terms of take off acceleration and top speed. With a good variator and those, you can pull 55-65 (total weight of bike & rider will have a big effect) I"m a big guy and I can get just over 55 on flat ground with that combo.
you can go to a big bore, change out your jets, different intake and exhaust, and you'll find more juice but not necessarily on the top end. You can change out your springs, and final drive gear to get more top end, but you're going to have to go with really light weights to take off, and that may cost you some of the top end you just received. Be happy with 55-60. If you get some more, you're doing good, but seek good advice before making a lot of purchases. You can spend a lot of money to gain 0 - 2 mph.
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Post by skuttadawg on Apr 14, 2014 14:31:10 GMT -5
Like mentioned you can have take off or top end unless you spent a fortune or buy a better scooter . First weight your rollers to see what you have . You can use stiffer clutch springs to take off faster with higher RPMs . A 150 often does not have a rev limited CDI . A Uni with stock head and exhaust may only bottle neck the flow .
My Echarm would hit 65 when new and 70 after break in . I replaced the 12g rollers with 12g Dr Pulley sliders and it went to 75 . I am sure it would hit 80 with heavier sliders . Unlike most mine 150 is liquid cooled , tall 16 inch wheels and Ducatti EFI . I got a warning ticket for going 72 MPH on an interstate by a HP who was curious what kind of " moped " ( his word ) went that fast . Note the CFMoto 150cc puts out 12.2 HP where the standard GY6 is 8 to 9 HP .
Now you can go bonkers with a high compression BBK and stroker crank from our buddy Walter at Scooterelements like the 232 Taidia kit . I had a TaoTao man it was a as I was used to Honda , Suzuki and Europeans . You may get some more out of it but it may not hold up unless you replace the engine and CVT with premium parts .
Those real screamers down in PR are not streetable and run on nitro not pump gas . YEs you can get more out of it with lil money or go all in but it may not last as long if you ride it above its limits as it will never run like a crotch rocket .
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Post by skuttadawg on Apr 14, 2014 14:51:53 GMT -5
BEFORE you buy parts to make it a monster I strongly suggest getting some premium tires like Michelin , Avon or Pirelli from tires like I just did . Prices are super good with free shipping over 99 dollar purchase . I have street knobby and it is amazing how much better the Michelin PureSport SC tires ride and perform almost like another scooter
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Post by skuttadawg on Apr 14, 2014 14:54:49 GMT -5
Lambretta had the world record of 75 MPH on a 150cc for 30 years or so BTW
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Post by skuttadawg on Apr 14, 2014 15:03:03 GMT -5
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Post by kennyhittz150cc on Apr 14, 2014 16:27:31 GMT -5
Lol thanks guys for all your comments very much appreciated .. last night I ordered 12g sliders a Orange performance cdi no limt rev .. and a blue air filter .. and a 4 piece blue neon light kit ..... wonder what thats gone do not looking to be the fastest just wana zip around detroit side streets .. I know I got to choose between top end and liw I want a little of both thats why I brought 12g sliders and going to mix with 10 g sliders down the road .. I just want litle more out her not the world 60 -70 mph ill be happy already was doing 60 all stock ...
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Post by skuttadawg on Apr 14, 2014 17:44:02 GMT -5
Get a jet kit like this one jets
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Post by ltdhpp on Apr 14, 2014 18:00:10 GMT -5
You CAN get quite an impressive amount more acceleration out of any scooter if you install all the goodies short of internal engine work... I have a 50 yard stretch of decent uphill grade pulling out of my neighborhood... using the street at the top of the hill as a marker, my 150 gained about 15mph on that stretch from stock with 'bolt-on' mods (and tuning), but never got anymore top speed. I didn't want it anyway. NO 150cc should be on a 55mph+ highway, I don't care what it is or how it's modded. Just because you're brave enough to do it, doesn't make it a good idea! 150's are well out of steam by then - struggling to keep up with 60mph traffic is NOT FUN!!! My 150 could pull away from traffic on 45mph roads (not just slowpokes) - that and spunky acceleration are the only goals a 150 should have. If you want to hit the highway and want to play around at 55-65mph, get a 250cc.
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Post by kennyhittz150cc on Apr 15, 2014 1:16:49 GMT -5
Well I jumped on the freeway a few times on a 150 its not fun lol I like to stick with the street .. I plan to get a 600 very soon but ima keep my scoot cant beat the gas price and I just lovem they easy to fix and the parts dont cost a arm and leg in the economy today best of both worlds I just hope when I put all this stuff on my bike its still reliable and dont start messing up on me .. I read that the Orange cdi has made black smoke come out and the sliders pop belts if thats the case ill keep mines stock have no prob with it.. rides gud ... just like messing with stuff ... what should be my next move on upgrading ?
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