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Post by jwalz1 on Mar 12, 2014 9:00:44 GMT -5
But I don't think that there are better than my majesty. And I don't think motorcycles are better than scooters either. That pretty much sums it up right there. I personally like scooters better, although a motorcycle probably has a "cooler" image. I don't care about cool, heck I am 44 and was up until 2 am playing Xbox with cowworkers. Nothing "cool" about that, but never let someone else's view of anything get in the way of enjoying what you like in life. If more Americans went to any large European city, the view of scooters would definately change. Millions of em, and half of them are ridden by hot babes.  Cool enough for me. |
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Post by urbanmadness on Mar 12, 2014 9:40:18 GMT -5
They all have there quirks, advantages and downfalls. I love my Apillia... it's awesome and I'm willing to wager it's more comfortable on the freeway then most HD's, has great storage and still manages to get just shy of 50mpg. Harley Davidsons just look awesome but I'd rather have a Vintage Indian and it wouldn't be a bike I ride everyday. My 250 is not the most comfortable bike in the world and the plastics.... well I have never seen somthing fit together so badly in my entire life... but it's a fun little bike... and it's easy to work on, parts are cheap and plentiful, and it gets 65-75 mgp, depending on how heavy handed I am with it. I have a real sence of accomplishment when I ride that bike, becuase I've pretty much rebuilt and painted everything on it and you can really throw it around left turns (the side stand scraps really bad on right turns... LOL) My Goldwing... well she's not running yet... I'll report back. I will say this tho... Even tho the Goldwing is an 82, the panel fitmet, etc, is better then the 2006 Aprillia, and that bike is nothing to sneeze at, They are both, very well built bikes. I really don't care, I'll ride anything.... I'd even buy a spree, if the price s right... I wonder what an Aero would look like on my mantle? LOL I'd even ride one of these...  |
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Post by spandi on Mar 12, 2014 10:03:30 GMT -5
They all have there quirks, advantages and downfalls. I love my Apillia... it's awesome and I'm willing to wager it's more comfortable on the freeway then most HD's, has great storage and still manages to get just shy of 50mpg. Harley Davidsons just look awesome but I'd rather have a Vintage Indian and it wouldn't be a bike I ride everyday. My 250 is not the most comfortable bike in the world and the plastics.... well I have never seen somthing fit together so badly in my entire life... but it's a fun little bike... and it's easy to work on, parts are cheap and plentiful, and it gets 65-75 mgp, depending on how heavy handed I am with it. I have a real sence of accomplishment when I ride that bike, becuase I've pretty much rebuilt and painted everything on it and you can really throw it around left turns (the side stand scraps really bad on right turns... LOL) My Goldwing... well she's not running yet... I'll report back. I will say this tho... Even tho the Goldwing is an 82, the panel fitmet, etc, is better then the 2006 Aprillia, and that bike is nothing to sneeze at, They are both, very well built bikes. I really don't care, I'll ride anything.... I'd even buy a spree, if the price s right... I wonder what an Aero would look like on my mantle? LOL I'd even ride one of these... You keep this up and soon you'll be able to rent them out to tourists |
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Post by novaraptor on Mar 12, 2014 11:22:25 GMT -5
Every bike has it fanatics..Me, I just like 2 wheels. My little brother, on the other hand, will tell you that if you are thinking of buying a non-harley, that your bike of choice is a piece of junk. If you are thinking of buying a harley, and it's not the same one that he rides, then he will tell you why that harley model is a piece of junk, and his is better. At least I've never found him dressing like a pirate. On the same thought.. If 4 wheels suck, and trikes are pretty cool, and 2 wheels are really cool, then shouldn't unicyclists be the ultimate cool? |
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Post by justbuggin2 on Mar 12, 2014 12:13:44 GMT -5
I love my scoot and everybody at work says I need a HD I don't think so as most of them are way to loud and I don't care for the way they look
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Post by jerseyboy on Mar 12, 2014 13:37:22 GMT -5
HD are over priced junk,,
They got way to big for their britches over the years,,did you ever see a HD store,,most of the $$ you pay for your bike goes into the store's appearance. Nothing.Nothing sounds like a HD but I bet mt Chinese scooter is just as reliable....I had a 92'Sporty,,that thing would rattle my butt so bad,,after 25 miles my wrists where aching and my nads where numb..junk!
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Post by Jarlaxle on Mar 12, 2014 13:59:45 GMT -5
I must disagree that nothing sounds like a Harley! A large rototiller (or any other power equipment with a two-cylinder engine) with a bad muffler sounds a lot like a Harley!
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Post by larry001964 on Mar 12, 2014 14:33:26 GMT -5
I'm thinking that was the guy's polite way of saying Get a Harley and we can ride. Personally I don't like them, but you have those that say it's not a bike if its not a Harley... I knew one man that used to say there's only two kinds of music, country and western... LOL
I don't live to make others happy, I like what i like and make no apologys for it, If i can't ride with someone because they don't like my bike.. It's them that have a problem not me..
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Post by oldchopperguy on Mar 12, 2014 14:58:34 GMT -5
Well, after more than fifty years of riding, I've had NUMEROUS Harley, BSA, Triumph, Suzuki, Yamaha, Honda, (one obscure, but WAY cool Brit 500 single Horex) one 100 mph+ teensy, street-licensed mini-bike... and lately, one Chinese Xingyue 150 scooter and now a well-worn Kymco 250 scooter. So... I've "been the route" as folks say... LOL!
Of all that inventory of 2-wheel fun, only ONE was truly "abysmal" in it's total lack of quality, performance and reliability, and THAT was the BSA 650cc Hornet. I'm not knocking that fine, but now defunct brand... I knew plenty of fellows who had BSA's that ran fine, but my particular one was real dog. It happens.
For DECADES I was a die-hard Harley fan, and I never did have a really bad one, but like others have said, Harley has a brand-loyalty that exceeds all reason. They have an "aura" of elite cool that simply can't be ignored. Sort of like Corvettes, only MUCH more so. And that's OK. Everybody has a favorite "something" and Harleys have a monster following.
If I don't miss my bet, I think the new REAL Indian will gain the same honored status over the years too. THEY are truly something special and outstanding in a cookie-cutter bike world. VERY cool!
Speaking from hard, wind-in-yo'-face riding experience, of all the bikes I've had, my all-time PERSONAL favorites were my hand-made 1957 pan-head Harley chopper, and my 1967 305cc Honda Super Hawk. No two bikes could be more different, with the hog being mega-cool, and the Honda being mega "doofus"... But BOTH were absolute joys to ride.
While I have not had my Kymco 250 long enough to be really sure, If it remains trouble-free, it is ABSOLUTELY going to be one of my very favorites. It "scoots" as well as a 150, and "cruises" as comfortably as my old 1970 Harley Electra-Glide did. Lets face it; it really makes NO difference at all WHAT you ride... ONLY that you YOU enjoy it. If anybody "disapproves" of your choice, and they're not making your payments, I'd say "go **** yourself" to their opinions... but probably NOT out-loud... LOL!
Whether it costs $40,000 and goes a concussive, thundering "potato, potato, potato" at a red-light... Or, costs $800 and goes a demure, quiet "poot, poot, pppffffttt" as the Buick ads say: "It's ALL good"!
Heck, my Kymco wears a high-perf muff that goes a quiet "ppffftttt" at idle, and a particularly nasty "BBRRRAAAPPP!" when I twist "Minnie Mouse's" ear... Sorta the best (or worst) depending you your preferences... of BOTH worlds... HeHeHe...
Ride what you like, and can afford... And enjoy that wind in yo' face...
Leo (in the wind) in Texas
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Post by jerseyboy on Mar 13, 2014 9:33:55 GMT -5
Your correct,,
Honda also got sued for having the same exact angle on there twin engine for one of their shawdows,,it sounded and ran identical to a HD but was soooo much more reliable,,so I stand corrected...non the less I might add my Honda VTX 1800 with V&H long shot strait pipes and chip,,sounded much better than an off balanced HD.It never leaked oil and always started up at the push of a button,,I had close to 50k on that bike and only thing I ever did was replace the back tire 8 times from the torque,front tire a few times,oil changes,and a battery...not to mention every time I took it out I went well over triple digits and banged off the rev limiter countless times,,bike ran like new when I sold it,never even blew any oil by...110 HP to the ground,for half the price of a junk HD.
Nuff said...
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Post by shalomdawg on Mar 13, 2014 17:59:11 GMT -5
howdy
fine discussion lads
where the heck is -in the wind texas- heh-hee
lotsa miles and smiles to ya
ken
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Post by nulldevice on Mar 13, 2014 22:17:03 GMT -5
This subject is fading into history regardless. The ICE has seen it's day and the future belongs to the fuel cell and electrical motors mounted in the wheel hubs.  No, not in the wheel hubs. Too much unsprung weight, especially in the front. |
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Post by nulldevice on Mar 13, 2014 22:36:24 GMT -5
I don't know where you are running into the brand snobbery, on both sides, but I haven't seen it in NE Ohio. One of the warmest welcomes I ever got from a group of riders was from the North Coast Ninety Niners, a social riding club of mostly Harley riders in Cleveland. www.meetup.com/neohbikers/ I showed up the first few rides on a 250cc Johnway china scoot and got lots of friendly attention. I blew their minds during the Curve Heaven ride. Yeah, the scoot worked to the max getting to the curve area but in the curves I found they weren't hard to keep up with at all. The low crash bars and foot pegs limit their lean angle. The best after ride comment was "I would easily leave him behind on the straightaways, but every time I looked back he was on my tail again as I left the next curve." Nice bunch and my TMAX lets me participate more fully in the group. I can keep up on the longer faster rides now. |
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Post by spandi on Mar 13, 2014 23:25:03 GMT -5
I don't know where you are running into the brand snobbery, on both sides, but I haven't seen it in NE Ohio. One of the warmest welcomes I ever got from a group of riders was from the North Coast Ninety Niners, a social riding club of mostly Harley riders in Cleveland. www.meetup.com/neohbikers/ I showed up the first few rides on a 250cc Johnway china scoot and got lots of friendly attention. I blew their minds during the Curve Heaven ride. Yeah, the scoot worked to the max getting to the curve area but in the curves I found they weren't hard to keep up with at all. The low crash bars and foot pegs limit their lean angle. The best after ride comment was "I would easily leave him behind on the straightaways, but every time I looked back he was on my tail again as I left the next curve." Nice bunch and my TMAX lets me participate more fully in the group. I can keep up on the longer faster rides now. Who says a scooter can't take the curves? (with some slight scraping) |
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Post by rockinez on Mar 13, 2014 23:39:20 GMT -5
I am used to the 'biker wave', while riding larger machines. In SoCal there appears to be a schism between motorcycles and scooters. I have never got the 'biker wave', or even a lifted finger, from a motorcycle while riding my scooter in SoCal.
Take out the Norton, and everyone waves.
Oh well.
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