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Post by alleyoop on Jan 23, 2014 20:28:44 GMT -5
Yes, you have to look on the tire the tires will have the speed rating imprinted on them by law. Also the speed rating is for MAX LOAD per tire so it is much greater than what the rating is. Alleyoop
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Post by skuttadawg on Jan 23, 2014 22:53:59 GMT -5
I have saw where some tires came in two diff speed ratings . Some cases you may be lucky and squeeze 10mm wider if you have the clearance but most scooters you only have one size that works right . You should always have tires that are rated above your top speed so you will not be chancing by go to or above its limitations .
When I took auto repair my instructor said " If I only teach you two things , always get premium brake pads and tires " .
I am happy with my Shinkos compared to the ChengChins but I would have proffered Pirelli or Dunlop but money was tight at the time .
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 24, 2014 23:36:26 GMT -5
All righty, I braved the cold and checked out my front tire. Rear, we won't worry about it. I'm guessing it's probably the same rating anyways, just in wider.
Front is a Michelin Gold Standard. Size is 110/70-16, followed by a slightly inset area with M/C52P. On around, a bit before you get to where it states "FRONT" is what looks like a cut capital I followed immediately by 006.
So somebody educate this lil' blonde 'Kat, please. The size I understand. Well, sort of. I know the 16 is diameter. 110 somehow shows the width. 70, not a clue. The rest, even less clue.
>'Kat
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Post by oldchopperguy on Jan 25, 2014 3:27:05 GMT -5
Kat,
I'm no expert, but I think the markings indicate a 110mm width, with the sidewall being 70% of the width, and a 16" wheel size. Also looks like it's "P" rated for 92mph. You should be good to go... You just need some warm weather!
My scoot uses a 120/70/12 front, and 140/70/12 rear tire. Same number meaning, but different size wheels and tire proportions. My new ones will be "P" rated. Cheesh... Those little 12" wheels are SMALL, but drive fine. Oh well, Vespas use even smaller wheels and they ride GREAT!
Ride safe,
Leo in Texas
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 25, 2014 7:31:38 GMT -5
I disagree about Vespas with those tiny wheels riding great. Excuse me, GREAT! The one I rode was so squirrelly, I thought I'd never ridden a bicycle in my life. I felt like a drunk driver must feel, only with awareness. It convinced me I was wrong to want to buy a scooter.
Then the dealer put me on the 16-incher. Oh baby this is for me, oh yes Precious it is!
So no iddy-bitty 10s for this 'Kat, no sir!
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 25, 2014 7:36:02 GMT -5
But now, what does the sidewall being 70% of the width mean? And what's the broken I 006 mean? What's my max weight load? And I just thought, isn't there supposed to be something that shows when it was made? Gosh, who knew tires could be so confusing? And I didn't even hit on brands and types--how do you know about that?! EGADS!! >'Kat
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Post by spandi on Jan 25, 2014 7:54:26 GMT -5
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Post by Jarlaxle on Jan 25, 2014 8:13:28 GMT -5
I disagree about Vespas with those tiny wheels riding great. Excuse me, GREAT! The one I rode was so squirrelly, I thought I'd never ridden a bicycle in my life. I felt like a drunk driver must feel, only with awareness. It convinced me I was wrong to want to buy a scooter. Then the dealer put me on the 16-incher. Oh baby this is for me, oh yes Precious it is! So no iddy-bitty 10s for this 'Kat, no sir! My scoot (and every Honda Helix) rides on a 10" rear (12" front) tire...its fine even at 65MPH!
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Post by spandi on Jan 25, 2014 8:21:10 GMT -5
I use the 12 inch, and they're fine for high speed riding provided they are rated for the conditions and made by a high quality manufacturer like Michelin or Pirelli
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 25, 2014 18:24:50 GMT -5
So spandi's link (thanks spandi!) explains the 70 part now. My front tire is 70% as tall as it is wide.
Which leave the M/C 52P. I'm going on a limb and guessing the M/C is for MotorCycle, 'cause that just makes sense. Although why anyone would mistake a motorcycle tire for a car or atv tire is beyond my ken. So that would make the 52 my max load, which according to the chart on that site is 454 lbs. Hm. If my bike is someting like 320, and if I'm not 130 without any of my riding gear, then am I over-weighting my tires?
And what's with the broken I thingy? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?.....
>'Kat
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Post by Jarlaxle on Jan 25, 2014 21:35:09 GMT -5
The load is 454lbs per tire.
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 26, 2014 1:25:53 GMT -5
Ah. Thanks, Jarl! I don't have to worry about that weight issue now. >'Kat
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Post by rockynv on Jan 26, 2014 7:03:47 GMT -5
All righty, I braved the cold and checked out my front tire. Rear, we won't worry about it. I'm guessing it's probably the same rating anyways, just in wider. Front is a Michelin Gold Standard. Size is 110/70-16, followed by a slightly inset area with M/C52P. On around, a bit before you get to where it states "FRONT" is what looks like a cut capital I followed immediately by 006. So somebody educate this lil' blonde 'Kat, please. The size I understand. Well, sort of. I know the 16 is diameter. 110 somehow shows the width. 70, not a clue. The rest, even less clue. >'Kat Check out the link below and click on how to read a tire: motorcycle.michelinman.com/tire-selector#s=2M/C means it is rated for MotorCycle use. You front tire is rated at: 52 = 441 lb capacity per tire (Note: You skipped a line 454 is for load range 53) P = Design Speed is 94 mph and the tire was tested at 150 mph. The rear tire should be rated at: 65 = 639 lb capacity per tire P = Design Speed is 94 mph and the tire was tested at 150 mph. Total tire capacity would be 441 + 639 = 1,080 lbs. The bike weighs about 360 lbs so as far as the tires go there is plenty of capacity for a rider, passenger and some cargo. Typically there is around a 440 to 470 lb passenger and cargo capacity on a Piaggio bike which would give the tires over a 200 lb reserve capacity by simple calculations. Here are the Load and Speed Charts: www.webbikeworld.com/Motorcycle-tires/tire-data.htm
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