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Post by bigmac on Jan 6, 2014 20:53:40 GMT -5
For the first few months of owning a 50cc scooter I was worried about someone stealing it. I would park it up close to buildings that I was going into. But people would give me dirty looks for parking it near buildings. A 50cc scooter is considered a moped in my state, but apparently people find it wrong to park it like so because it doesn't look like a motorized bicycle. So I looked up the weight of my scooter and found that it's 210lbs. Also, unlike a bicycle, it's bulky and doesn't have many good spots to hold onto when lifting.
I have since been parking it like a full size motorcycle. People don't give me dirty looks anymore, nor care a parking spot is being used on a 50cc scooter. It's been left unchained among parked cars with few to no people around to witness it being stolen. As far as I know, no one has made an attempt to steal it and I feel quite sure that no one will bother to do so.
Yet, every time I go to a friend's house, I'll be told that I should put my scooter in the garage. If I don't put it in the garage, he will look outside every now and again to see if it's missing. One time three teenagers were walking by and he told me that I should get out there.
Certainly 50cc and 150cc scooters are smaller and lighter than most motorcycles, but still, I don't think they're really that easy to steal.
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Post by JerryScript on Jan 6, 2014 21:23:44 GMT -5
I can post a security camera video (two different angles) of one of my employee's scooter being stolen from the back of the restaurant I manage. The thief walks up outside the fence, looks around, walks inside the fence and goes to each corner of the building looking to see it it's clear. He then grabs the scooter, takes about 30 seconds to break the ignition fork lock, then pushes it away up a hill. I know from working on scooters all he had to do to drive away was a very quick and easy hot wire, which he probably did as soon as he was far enough away to feel safe. The police never have found it after 7 months.
I can also tell you about another employee who was borrowing a friend's scooter, got pulled over by the police who were checking all 50cc scooters in the area due to high reports of theft.
I can also post links to tons of YouTube videos showing how easy it is to steal a scooter or motorcycle with a van. Takes two to three guys, they pull up beside the scooter, open the sliding side door or the rear doors, pull in the scooter or motorcycle, slam the doors shut and drive away in less than 20 seconds.
Due to the fact most states don't require registration on 50cc scooters, there are not reliable statistics. The same lack of registration requirements makes it easier for anyone to ride around on a stolen scooter with no plates.
As far as parking, when I take my niece to the library on Mondays, the security guard tells me to park with the bicycles right next to the entrance on the sidewalk. I also park near bike racks all over town, since I use a cable lock to prevent the quick and easy thieves.
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Post by mopojo on Jan 6, 2014 21:53:46 GMT -5
Don't be so quick to think no one will bother stealing your bike. I have had them snatched-up in less than 30 seconds while taking groceries in the house. I grab the chain to lock it and BAM!: Gone. I have had three stole in four years. They were all stolen when not locked or indoors. I do not let the bike out of sight if I do not lock it. I lock it ALLWAYS. I told a friend not long ago that he better start locking his up and he says won't nobody mess around with his stuff. A few nights later he was taking out the garbage and a punk-arse kid was walking away with his only means of transportation. He keeps it locked NOW! LOL Lucky to have something to put a lock to.................... They throw them in a truck or van and part them out around here/everywhere. They only weigh 200 lbs +/_. I can lift mine and carry it several yards by myself.
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Post by millsc on Jan 6, 2014 22:16:54 GMT -5
Lock your stuff up and turn on the alarm. I have an alarm lock mine up at the store with handlebars locked and disabled my kickstarter
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Post by spandi on Jan 7, 2014 0:09:25 GMT -5
Bmac Lock it up! (and yes they are that easy to steal) even something as large as a full dresser can be swiped by four guys sliding a metal beam behind the front and rear wheels, and in the blink of an eye it's gone!
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Post by oldchopperguy on Jan 7, 2014 0:17:29 GMT -5
Lesson: My Harley Electra-Glide weighed around 900 pounds, was locked with an "unbreakable" titanium chain to a post, and stuffed between my two cars in my apartment covered lot.
My neighbor's daughter watched as a van pulled up, six large biker-guys jumped out and three got on each end of my full-sized Oldsmobile and lifted it up and slid it out of the way. They sprayed Freon on my "unbreakable" chain, smacked it with a hammer and it shattered.
Four of the bastards picked up the 900 pound 1200cc Hog and tossed it into the van and they were gone in less than two minutes.
Because of that, clear back in 1978, I was without a bike until 6 years ago when I discovered affordable Chinese scooters. If someone WANTS your ride, they WILL steal it.
My old Xingyue Eagle 150 was ALWAYS locked to a structural post under my carport, and was never stolen in six years. However, the stranded-cable I locked it with shows numerous cut-marks from attempts with a bolt-cutter. The stranded-steel cables seem to be much more cut-proof than solid steel chains.
Fortunately, scooters are not as attractive to thieves as high-end motorcycles, but if it's in plain sight, and not chained to something solid, even the rotten little pre-teen "gangsta-wannabes" will take it "just because they can". And, those same under-sixteen little cretins are the same ones who WILL shoot you if you catch them in the act... Again, "just because they can". And trust me, those little bastards ALWAYS have a gun handy... I always keep my scooter chained, and COVERED, at home, and have found "out of sight, out of mind" is a good way to keep it safe. If they can't SEE it, they don't WANT it.
Remember, your lightweight 50cc can be tossed into a pickup truck bed by just two (or one strong) punk, in 10 seconds or less. Keep it as secure as you can within reason, but remember a thief is a thief...
Stay safe!
Leo in Texas.
PS: The 150 is now gone, traded on a used Kymco 250, parked in the same place, same chain, same dirty silver tarp that makes it almost disappear. AND, after six years with Geico, liability insurance only, they offered me FULL-COVERAGE, collision, fire and theft for TWO DOLLARS more than my original $100 yearly premium. I'd check into insurance, even on a 50cc, just in case you can get it really cheap... Just a thought.
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Post by rockynv on Jan 7, 2014 5:04:42 GMT -5
A co worker had a chained up $35,000 BigDog stolen right in front of him while he was sitting eating lunch in a dinner looking out at it through the window all chained up and safe. They were long gone before he even got halfway to the door and it was never recovered.
A 50cc scooter is much easier to take.
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Post by americanpsycho on Jan 7, 2014 11:35:55 GMT -5
They're easy enough to steal to the point that I'm using everything below. Trimax Gladiator Ironclad Cable Lock Trimax Trimaflex Cables x2 Trimax Max-40 Short Shackle U-Locks x2 Trimax Max-60 Short Shackle U-Lock Trimax Max- Ultra Max Security U-Lock Trimax Scream'n Demon Super Chain Poulan Electric Chainsaw 25ft Extension Cord 5-Gal Bucket 10ft Tow Chain Cement Mix Insurance Policy
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Post by cookietin on Jan 7, 2014 12:47:48 GMT -5
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Post by f4milytime on Jan 7, 2014 12:48:34 GMT -5
Bottom line, Yes scooters are easy to steal !!!
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Post by millsc on Jan 7, 2014 13:26:22 GMT -5
I have worked on many scooters that have been stolen and recovered some even delivered with police escorts. Most show up with destroyed ignitions or the wiring harness chopped up in a horrible fashion or both. As why I have a high torque starter a powerful battery and a disabled kickstarter with a hidden alarm that won't start the bike even with the igntion drilled out.
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Post by novaraptor on Jan 7, 2014 13:37:38 GMT -5
What everyone above said. I had my 5 month old 250 stolen on a bright and sunny Sunday morning when parked near a busy intersection. It was only secured by the fork lock. Slam the handlebars hard and you can pop that easily. I got it back the next day. It had only been stolen so that the thieves could steal the carburetor off of it. Since it was registered and plated, the police actually put it on the stolen vehicle list and kept an eye out for it. They usually don't look very hard for a 50cc, since most of those get taken, loaded in large trucks, and sold out of state. And, of course, virtually no matter what you do, it won't be 100% effective. Some people don't bother with locks, but they do get replacement insurance, so they can be riding a few weeks after the theft.
No matter what you choose, good fortune to you.
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Post by larry001964 on Jan 7, 2014 16:23:05 GMT -5
Yep they are very easy to steal.. If parking in a lot such as walmart, groceries store, something like that, Ive been known to chain Fawkes up to lamp post, the shopping cart containers that are bolted down to the parking lot, trees, a man hole cover, once I locked him up to a drainage grating in the side walk.... Never never never leave your scoot unlocked.. I won't describe why in a public forum how one can get around the Ignition system, just know it's very easy and can be done in seconds..
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Post by tvnacman on Jan 7, 2014 16:52:15 GMT -5
Quote deleted .
John
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Post by millsc on Jan 7, 2014 16:59:01 GMT -5
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